Indeed Pumpkinhead, and that is why you cannot stop Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny, and why you cannot stop The Good Fight For Sanity from defeating your pathetic campaign easily.
I like how you think you've being clever when your post is pretty much just saying "I know you are, but what am I?"
The Good Fight For Sanity" sounds pretty funny, though. Stick with that, the capital letters make you sound like you are seriously fighting for some higher Ideal when you are really just supporting mass market lowest common demonator garbage known as R/H.
Garbage? Perhaps you should check out the massive Heron evidence I've just posted.
Your picture shows Dan and Emma together. If your whole cause was that Dan and Emma should get together in REAL LIFE, you may have a point. After all, lots of examples exist of film couples who have worked together: Tim Burton and Helen Bonham Carter (Charlie and The Chocolate Factory), Johnny Depp used to go out with Winona Ryder (and they did "Edward Scissorhands"), Tom Cruise used to date Nicole Kidman (and they did "Eyes Wide Shut") and of course, there is the "Will they? Won't they?" of Hollywood, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie (Mr and Mrs Smith). However, we're not talking about Dan and Emma, we're talking about Harry and Hermione, and you are still yet to provide solid evidence for the existence of Harry/Hermione.
If you want us to take you seriously, pumpkinhead, you need to provide us with quotes from the books and from interviews with JKR, not a picture from the film of Dan and Emma - that picture conveys the message: "I support the H/Hr ship because OMG Dan and Emma look oh so CUTE together!!! *squeal*"
If you do decide to provide quotes, a word of advice: don't post the same quote that Snowy had on her site (the one where Hermione is shaking because she's nervous about her OWL results) because standing next to Harry and shaking about her results doesn't prove anything!
You know what? I went into my fanfiction communities today, and I got humiliated by a bunch of hardcore R/Hr shippers for shipping H/Hr, and now I have the label "delusional' and 'crazy'. I really hope your enjoying the fact that most 'True' Harmony shippers are paying for what YOU and Snowy are doing.
And besides, a REAL and TRUE fan does not simpoly ship Harry ad Herione, they are the ones who cheer Harry on for every victory, and feel bad for him when he loses, not because he didn't get Hermione. If you love Harry Potter THAT much, as you say you do, than be happy he is with Ginny Weasley.
All right, i think we need to take a step back here and get our priorities straight. Firstly, I have no amount of ill-will towards those delusional H/Hr shippers. Know why? Cuz its pointless, thats why!
Really, NOTHING can be gained by bashing shippers of any kind, so STOP!! *eats pie*
Secondly, IT. IS. A. BOOK. I LOVE HP but I REFUSE to go around and bash everybody who has different shipping views cuz two FICTIONAL characters didn't hook up.
I simply refuse to boycott book seven (and you would be wise to refuse to as well) and i think that ANYONE who critisizes Jo is delusional. If you HONESTLY think she had Ron and Hermione hook up cuz a bunch of fans "said so", i think you have WAYYYY underestimated her talent as a writer!!!
In conclusion, I think we could all do to put our time and energy to more productive matters, such as ending world hunger, ending the AIDS crisis, ect.
Why don’t you just accept the books the way they are? J.K. Rowling writes the books she planned them and how she liked to see them, not what you like. There is always fan fiction for you, and I’m sure you will continue writing with fan fiction. Once in a while I find a very good H/Hr fan fiction. I respect your beliefs but sometimes things cannot go the way you want. Harry Potter isn’t all about romance (even though it’s quite a large part of the fandom). What I think is more important is that it identifies things such as friendship, loyalty, and how important it is to have faith.
Why thank you, yunakitty2987, I appreciate the compliment. I shall point you in the general direction of a petition doing much better in terms of ACTUAL SUPPORT than both Snowy's and Pumpkinhead's put together. Add your voice to The Good Fight For Sanity, and pledge full loyalty to Emerson and JKR:
I actually have to say another thing about Snowy, in both of her web pages she has the term "ultimate betrayal" as part of the web address. What ultimate betrayal? J.K. Rowling wrote the books as she planned them. She never, at any point, promised that the Harmony ship would sail. In fact, she gave strong ANVIL-SIZED hints throughout interviews and the books. These hints can be seen in the evidence that I have provided in the "It's been a while" thread.
You can't stop true fans becuase the real fans here are sticking with cannon. You're acting like a kid that didn't get his way.
R/H and H/G are the winning ships. If Harry/Hermione does become the leading ship more power to ya but get a life!! The books aren't about who gets together with who! It's about Harry fighting Voldemort.
Furthermore a picture from the movie proves nothing! That's the directors opinion, not JK's!! There were plenty of R/H moments in the movie too!
There is cannon evidence and that is better then your freakin' picture! I am rambling but I don't care!!
I must say, the evidence Pumpkinhead put up, while certainly not conclusive, does require further analysis. I am a certified clinical psychologist specializing in adolescent behavior, so I know a good deal about the relationship dramas of today's teenagers.
Let us examine the picture pumpkinhead has posted on his site from the HP movie. I am referring to the picture of Harry and Hermione that is in the main message of this post, "Just a little reminder to R/H shippers..." It shows Harry's hands extended horizontally towards Hermione. It is of course no surprise where his hands are pointing. Extend those hands another 6-12 inches, and that's where Harry's subconscious mind really wants his hands to be. The open, almost grasping motion of his hands shows that his id is just wanting to reach out those few extra inches for Hermione's breasts. As a teenager recently entering puberty, he is naturally fascinated by Hermione's recent development, and though his id wants to explore further, his superego is preventing him from moving in completely.
Let us now examine Hermione in the same picture. Her left hand is stroking Harry's leg. Freud has said that women often view male legs as a corollary to the penis. In essence, since both are limb-like structures originating from the waist/crotch region, females view the leg almost as a bigger and more desirable replacement for the penis. This is the origin of the common belief among women that a male's penis size correlates with the size of his feet - the foot/leg represents the corollary to the penis. Clearly, since Hermione is touching Harry's leg, her subconscious id is telling her that she should just continue sliding her hand up the leg to reach the pelvic region, but her superego, the governor of moral thought and societal standards, convinces her that this would be inappropriate and that she will have to settle for the leg - the phallic corollary of the penis.
Adolescence is a confusing time for all people, and the conflicting hormonal impulses often leave us unsure of what exactly we should do about our feelings. In this picture, Harry and Hermione are no exception.
Finally, we have the picture of Ron in the sidebar, at the bottom of the right side. (You might need to scroll down to see this picture.) You can clearly see that Ron is holding his broken wand, with a somewhat disappointed look on his face. Clearly, this foreshadows Ron's sexual frustration. It is not hard to see that the wand is a phallic object. Certainly, pumpkinhead seems to ave picked up on this clue, with his caption: "It happens to a lot of guys, Ron." He is referring of course to the fact that Ron's quest for sexual satisfaction will never be realized, and thus, his "wand" (i.e. penis) is broken and limp. However, we should not feel too sorry for Ron. Adolescent sexual frustration is perfectly normal, and is key to the psychological development process. The fact that that Ron is grasping his "wand" in his right (presumably dominant) hand suggests that Ron will relieve his frustration through masturbation. Most teenage boys do masturbate regularly, and it is a healthy way of coping with the hormonal changes and impulses that occur in the adolescent male. While the picture of Ron shows him somewhat disappointed, as he should be since he will likely not receive sexual satisfaction from the object of his lust and desire, he has a half smile as he grasps his limp "wand." He realizes, "Hey, maybe I don't need a girl right now after all...actually, this is feeling pretty good!" Through this, Ron is learning that he can function perfectly fine on his own, whether Hermione wants to be his girlfriend or not.
Clearly, the Freudian analysis of this issue suggests that there may indeed be more to the Harry/Hermione/Ron love triangle than meets the eye. These clues are all quite significant when taken in the appropriate psychological context. I am glad to see that J.K. Rowling has not been afraid to tackle the issue of teenage sexuality head on, and the immense popularity of the books will only serve to educate our youth in complex issues of social and behavioral psychology.
I invite you all to respond with your thoughts on the matter. Perhaps we can approach the true answer to this interesting social experiment using the Socratic method?
wow, thanks for that comment, Dr. Fraser. Are you really a doctor? That's pretty cool you would be researching these issues. I think JRK has made a smart move by writing about teenage love in her books, but the story has just wrung a pretty false tune in the most latter. My picture of Ron is meant as a joke but I'm glad you picked up on the "imagery" there, I was worried it might go over the heads of all the trolls who can't figure subtleties out.
Your talking about the id and superego and things like that was pretty complicated but I think it adds up the issue at stake here pretty fully. Harry and Hermione have had a relationship thats been pretty physically restrained but its always been a animal-like attraction, a sign of true love. It's brewed on the inside, and is only apparent when we here Harry or Hermione's inner thoughts. Unlike the flirting between Hermione with Ron, which has always been sort of a mental or social thing, the True Love of Harry and Hermione is based from the inside of their psyches. The pictures I have chosen express this inner, brewing attraction and how it manifolds into a subtle physical one.
Thanks a lot for posting a comment! I think you might actually be a real doctor even though on the internet people like to fake being knowledgable. And you give a nice little writing lesson for all the trolls around here!
"Harry and Hermione are very platonic [platonic means nonsexual] friends. But I won't answer for anyone else. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink." -- From a National Press Club Luncheon chat with JK Rowling, October 1999)
I don't know how to make it any clearer than that, other than "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione."
I agree with what misstrish said. The only thing the picture shows is that Dan and Emma look cute together (which they do, I will admit, but they're only ACTORS).
All I've ever seen between Harry and Hermione is a strong, caring friendship. They're there for each other, get along well, and obviously are very close, but I've never seen any romantic feeling between the two of them. Yes, Harry and Hermione love each other, but it's the best friend kind of love, and it doesn't go any deeper than that.
Oops, sorry, Yoda. No harm meant, really. *gives pie as humble apology* And Jonathan- I've been there, my friend. Oh, how I've been there. I am definitely a thug. (I'm with you on LJ. ^_^)
"You sound like a lonely and hormonal 14 year old!"
Hey, don't underestimate lonely/hormonal 14 year olds- I am one! Do not insult us by comparing us to dimwits like snowball or pumpkinbrain! ;-)
And also, no offense pumpkinpie, but I have a vague suspicion that Dr. Mark Fraser was taking the mickey. And you haven't yet mentioned my comment under your post concerning your first signing of the petition, I am most interested as to your reaction.
Pumpkinhead, you make me laugh. Try looking up the word "True" in a Webster's II New College Dictionary, or any other dictionary. The definition in this Webster's dictionary says "Being consistent with reality or fact," which you are not, if the Harry Potter books are fact in Potterverse and here, therefore you cannot be true. You were better off writing essays, I think. Those were always much better than photoshopped images of Harry and Hermione and photos from the film taken out of context. Keep trying! You'll get to Princeton level writing in no time if you practice enough. Maybe you should try to write your own fantasy or science fiction stories, too. That would be a great way to release the energy, creativeness, and talent you have in writing. Who knows, maybe you could write a series more popular than Rowling.
Dear oh dear Pumpkinhead, once again you embarass yourself further:
"And you give a nice little writing lesson for all the trolls around here!"
That's a bit rich coming from someone whose writing totally lacks evidence to support it, and whose grammar has become infamous on this blog for being utterly APPALLING.
Anyway, WHERE IS THE HARRY/HERMIONE EVIDENCE? You have still yet to provide solid, concrete evidence of Harry/Hermione having been hinted at in the books/movies/JKR interviews. We at the Good Fight For Sanity have, however, as the sixth email I have sent to Snowy and the concrete Heron evidence that I posted on your blog shows.
Here, once again, is the sixth email which I have sent to Snowy, though it also applies strongly to Pumpkinhead. And this time Pumpkinhead, instead of avoiding the issues I present with a pathetic comment like: "it's good to see you have the philosophy that the longer your essay, the stronger your point." This time, actually ADDRESS the issues. Paragraph by paragraph. Here we go:
Well, firstly Snowy, I would like to point you in the direction of a petition gaining much more support than yours is achieving:
Check out the number of signatures, and the actual signature goal. That's right, a realistic target has been passed. The vast majority of signatures are actually SUPPORTING my petition.
Now I know what you're going to say before you even say it. You will undoubtedly say something along the lines of "The proof is in the numbers, bucko" or something similar. Wrong.
petition: A formal written request, esp. signed by many people , appealing to authority in some cause.
Unfortunately, your petition does not apply to this rule for the "cause" of your petition, in other words the statement of your petition, is in fact generating a hell of a lot more abuse and mockery. In reality, the actual amount of GENUINE signatures that SUPPORT your petition still ranks below 100. Besides which, even IF you managed to get a million signatures, that STILL would not be enough. The Harry Potter Series has a LOT more fans than that. HBP did get distributed in what I think was 47 countries after all.
Here, I am now going to deconstruct the moronic statement of your petition:
"We, the undersigned, hereby petition Joanne Kathleen Rowling, author of the Harry Potter book series, to immediately apologize for her remarks included in the interview conducted by Emerson of MuggleNet and Melissa of The Leaky Cauldron, in particular the following words:
"Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione." "
This is not the only time that JKR has hinted at the Heron ship being the one that would sail. She also mentioned that Harry and Hermione were very "platonic" friends. Platonic means non-sexual. Plus, there is that ANVIL-SIZED quote that appears in Goblet of Fire in which Harry denies "very firmly" that he fancies Hermione. Even if you don't believe in the Heron ship, that quote alone should have at least given you the sign that Harry/Hermione would never happen. Also, there is the tons of evidence provided by Mina, a lot of which you STILL have not deconstructed. Where are those further "deconstructions" hmm? Did you give up after it turned out that people were deconstructing your deconstructions of the Heron evidence, but no-one was able to deconstruct the deconstructions of your pathetic so-called Harmony evidence that you provided?
"In addition, we strongly DEMAND that Joanne Kathleen Rowling apologize for laughing at the term "delusional," as it was applied to the millions of Harry/Hermione shippers throughout the world." Millions? Hardly. I think you'll find, based on the evidence of the large Heron support in your petition, the Loyalty to Emerson petition, and the Crazy Shipper Ban petition, that Harmony shippers are horribly outnumbered ever since HBP. And she wasn't laughing at the term "delusional", she was laughing at Emerson. After all, Emerson's attitude is "If you don't like it, get off my site." What makes Mugglenet so successful is that while it is the biggest provider of Harry Potter related news, it also reflects the personal opinions of those who write for Mugglenet: that is to say the people who write the editorials, and Emerson himself.
"We also petition Joanne Kathleen Rowling to rectify the situation in Book 7, clearing up any questions the few Ron/Hermione shippers (the truly "delusional" ones) floating around might have about the one true romantic relationship that matters in the Harry Potter books, that of Harry and Hermione. "
Have you actually read the book? If you had then you would realise that Heron shippers are not delusional, for it was Ron/Hermione that happened, not Harry/Hermione. You've provided pitifully little Harry/Hermione, where as we truly SANE fans in The Good Fight For Sanity have come up with TONS of evidence. Also, Harry Potter is by no means a romantic novel. Au contraire, the main focus of the books is Harry's continuing battle with Lord Voldemort. The romance in the books is little more than a subplot, rather much like Quidditch, and the lessons which the students take.
But then again, what would you know about the books? If I may recall, one of your posts on your petition stated that your beliefs are not based on the books, but the MOVIES, saying, and I quote: "Dan and Emma would look so much more cute together" If this was a petition to get Dan and Emma together in REAL LIFE, then you may have a point. After all, lots of examples exist of film couples who have worked together: Tim Burton and Helen Bonham Carter (Charlie and The Chocolate Factory), Johnny Depp used to go out with Winona Ryder (and they did "Edward Scissorhands"), Tom Cruise used to date Nicole Kidman (and they did "Eyes Wide Shut") and of course, there is the "Will they? Won't they?" of Hollywood, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie (Mr and Mrs Smith). However, we're not talking about Dan and Emma, we're talking about Harry and Hermione, and you are still yet to provide solid evidence for the existence of Harry/Hermione.
"Otherwise, we have no choice but to ban Book 7 when it comes out. As the millions of Harry/Hermione shippers are the only "true" fans of the Harry Potter book series, this action will seriously affect books sales, and will undoubtedly force Bloomsbury and Scholastic to reconsider any future Harry Potter publications."
This bit is just hilarious. Please learn some grammar lessons: it's BOYCOTT not BAN. And those who are asking JKR to change her books are "true fans"? To quote Dr. Evil: "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhttttttttttt" Also, what "future Harry Potter publications" do you speak of? In case you haven't noticed, Harry Potter 7 will the last book in the series, and unless JKR decides to release a HP Encyclopaedia (which is highly unlikely considering that detailed HP encyclopaedias already exist on the internet (see Lexicon, Mugglenet, or Wikipedia)), after HP7 there will simply be the movies that will need to happen and then that's it. JKR can put her feet up and have a well deserved rest. Of course, the books will still be open for debate even AFTER they have finished, such will be it's great legacy.
If you are really wanting a romantic novel, then I suggest that you stop disgracing the internet with your laughable delusions and that you read books by the Brontes, stuff like Pride and Prejudice and Wuthering Heights and Emma. Or if you want something more recent, try His Dark Materials. It fits in with your whole "The Hero and the Heroine find love with each other" logic.
Now, compare your petition statement, with mine:
"Shortly after the release of the sixth book in the Harry Potter series: Half Blood Prince, two people, representing two different websites: Mugglenet and The Leaky Cauldron, were lucky enough to interview the great Joanne Kathleen Rowling herself. During the interview, humourous banter was exchanged, particularly on the subject of shippers. Unfortunately, a misinterpretation of the word "delusional" used during the interview led to a petition and an angry web page being created by Otter Snow, or Snowy if you prefer. Otter Snow is a Harry/Hermione shipper who was furious that this ship did not sail in HBP. Her fury can be seen here:
But Otter Snow is not the only hostile Harry/Hermione shipper (or "Harmony" shippers if you prefer). There is of course Pumpkinhead, and his site:
http://harryandhermione4ever.blogspot.com
Pumpkinhead's resentment of Miss Rowling even stretches to calling her JRK. He, like Otter Snow, is incapable of using decent facts to support his evidence. Instead, he focuses on the so-called "travesty" that "one of the greatest love stories has not been told".
What both Otter Snow and Pumpkinhead fail to realise is that the Harry Potter series is not, and never will be, centred on the romance. So much more important things happened in HBP, such as the death of an extremely important character, and the issue of whether Severus Snape is truly evil. So to vent anger and abuse at Miss Rowling simply because two characters did not end up together is utterly pathetic.
Anyway, what with abuse raining in on Miss Rowling and Emerson, we now feel that the time is right to show undying support and loyalty for Mugglenet, a site fronted by Emerson, who actually manages to be extremely funny. And of course the time is right also to pledge support for Miss Rowling in her writing of the books, and of course, support for Book 7.
Therefore, we the undersigned pledge full loyalty to Emerson and to Miss Rowling.
Thank you."
No grammatical errors, no unrealistic aims, hardly any abuse in response, and most importantly, the petition has passed its signature goal of 100 (a realistic target), and still it continues to grow.
Finally, a haiku.
Face it, you're losing,
Sanity's going to triumph,
Leave while you still can.
DEAL WITH IT
SUPPORT BOOK 7
ALL HAIL MISS TRISH, TIFFI, THE GREY LADY, JONATHAN AND EMERSON: LEADERS OF THE GOOD FIGHT FOR SANITY
Next, I present, once again, the Heron evidence. Have fun attempting to deconstruct it!
- Also, at the end of Book 4, Hermione kisses Harry on the cheek but she once again refrains with Ron. This obviously means there is some sort of tension between the two. - When Harry sees Hermione at the Yule Ball and doesn't recognise her, it is because she looks pretty. He finds her attractive FOR ONCE. She is never described favourably again. - When Malfoy calls Hermione a mudblood for the first time in CoS, Ron does that spell on him that then backfires and makes him "eat slugs". He reacted the strongest of all to this insult, throwing himself at Malfoy in an attempt to hurt him. - Hermione and Ron bicker ALL THE TIME in the last few books. If this is not hate/LOVELOVELOVE relationship, then what is? Remember what movie!Snape says to Lupin and Sirius? "Well, well, well, bickering like an old married couple". - I believe JKR gave the film makers, particularly Alfonso Cuaron, some insider details for what was yet to come in the books, especially Ron/Hermione. For example, when Harry is approaching Buckbeak, that famous grabbing for Ron's hand that Hermione exhibits? She is embarassed, he is embarrassed, they look away from eachother and even step away. Grabbing for somebody's hand if they are just a friend to you means nothing! You can do it rather easily in fact. But she did it without thinking. And when the three of them see Buckbeak getting his head chopped off, Hermione does that weird sultry putting her arms round Ron, and it is Harry who is forced to try and join the embrace. She is turning to Ron for comfort involuntarily. How lovely.
Some quotes...
"You will find that Madam Pomfrey is still awake. She's just giving out Mandrake juice - I daresay the Basilisk's victims will be waking up any moment." [Dumbledore] "So Hermione's OK!" said Ron brightly. - CoS
"Hermione!" Ron groaned (when he saw her petrified). -It isn't Harry who reacts, it's Ron, and we see how upset he is.
"Bet you five Galleons the next one dies. Pity it wasn't Granger -" The bell rang at that moment, which was lucky; at Malfoy's last words, Ron had leapt off his stool, and in the scramble to collect bags and books, his attempts to reach Malfoy went unnoticed. "Let me at him," Ron growled as Harry and Dean hung onto his arms. "I don't care, I don't need my wand, I'm going to kill him with my bare hands -" - Ron is completely enraged, but Harry doesn't react other than to hold him back.
Ron read the message, swallowed hard, and looked sideways at the empty seat usually filled by Hermione. The sight seemed to stiffen his resolve, and he nodded. -The fact Hermione is no longer there makes him want to go find the spiders, the things he hates above all others.
".. Five more points from Gryffindor for being an insufferable know-it-all." Hermione went very red, put down her hand and stared at the floor with her eyes full of tears. It was a mark of how much the class loathed Snape that they were all glaring at him, because very one of them has called Hermione a know-it-all at least once, and Ron, who told Hermione she was a know-it-all at least twice a week, said loudly, "You asked us a question, and she knows the answer! Why ask if you don't want to be told?" - PoA
Harry was still thinking about what Malfoy said, while Ron was seething about Snape (for taking five points from Gryffindor because Hermione helped Neville.) - STILL seething, really. He is obsessed...
"You don't think Malfoy did something to her (Hermione)?" Ron said anxiously as they hurried upstairs toward Gryffindor Tower. - Worried, how touching.
Hermione flung her arms around Ron's neck and broke down completely. Ron, looking quite terrified, patted her very awkwardly on the top of the head. Finally, Hermione drew away. "Ron, I'm really, really sorry about Scabbers ..." she sobbed. "Oh-well-he was old," said Ron, looking thoroughly relieved that she had let go of him. "And he was a bit useless. You never know, Mum and Dad might get me an owl now." - This is sexual tension- if you fancy someone and they throw themselves on you it's a bit awkward, and he tries to deal with her in the best way he can, which is not very effectively.
"If you think they can't spot a Mudblood, stay where you are." [Malfoy] "You watch your mouth!" shouted Ron. Everybody present knew that 'Mudblood' was a very offensive term for a witch or wizard of Muggle parentage. "Never mind, Ron," said Hermione quickly, seizing Ron's arm to restrain him as he took a step towards Malfoy. - GoF. - Again, trying to protect Hermione (see previous 'mudblood' evidence).
"I hope the others are okay," said Hermione after a while. "They'll be fine," said Ron. (and then...) "Those poor Muggles, though," said Hermione nervously. "What if they can't get them down?" "They will," said Ron reassuringly. "They'll find a way." - He's making her feel better, constantly (well, twice) reassuring her.
"Look," said Hermione patiently (to Harry), "it's always you who gets all the attention, you know it is. I know it's not your fault," she added quickly, seeing Harry open his mouth furiously. "I know you don't ask for it...but--well--you know, Ron's got all those brothers to compete against at home, and you're his best friend, and you're really famous--he's always shunted to one side whenever people see you, and he puts up with it, and he never mentions it, but I suppose this is just one time too many...." - This just goes to show how much Hermione knows and understands Ron.
...Hermione, whimpering in panic was clutching her mouth. "Hermione!" Ron had hurried forward to see what was wrong with her; Harry turned and saw Ron dragging Hermione's hand away from her face. - Where is Harry in all this? It's his fault she got hurt, for pity's sake.
"Can't you think of anyone who'd go with Ron?" he said, lowering his voice so that Ron wouldn't hear. "What about Hermione Granger?" said Parvati. - I've always liked Parvati...
All the good-looking ones taken, Ron?" said Hermione loftily. "Eloise Midgen starting to look quite pretty now, is she? Well, I'm sure you'll find someone somewhere who'll have you." But Ron was staring at Hermione as though suddenly seeing her in a whole new light. "Hermione, Neville's right -- you are a girl . . ." "Oh well spotted," she said acidly. Well -- you can come with one of us!" "No, I can't," snapped Hermione. "Oh come on," he said impatiently, "we need partners, we're going to look really stupid if we haven't got any, everyone else has . . ." "I can't come with you," said Hermione, now blushing, "because I'm already going with someone." "No, you're not!" said Ron. "You just said that to get rid of Neville!" "Oh did I?" said Hermione, and her eyes flashed dangerously. "Just because it's taken you three years to notice, Ron, doesn't mean no one else has spotted I'm a girl!" Ron stared at her. Then he grinned again. - She seems quite hurt that it took him so long to finally think of her as a date.
"Hermione -- who are you going to the ball with?" said Ron. He kept springing this question on her, hoping to startle her into a response by asking it when she least expected it. - Why is he so bothered?
Hermione came over and sat down in Parvati's empty chair. She was a bit pink in the face from dancing. "Hi," said Harry. Ron didn't say anything. "It's hot, isn't it?" said Hermione, fanning herself with her hand. "Viktor's just gone to get some drinks." Ron gave her a withering look. "Viktor?" he said. "Hasn't he asked you to call him Vicky yet?" Hermione looked at him in surprise. "What's up with you?" she said. "If you don't know," said Ron scathingly, "I'm not going to tell you." Hermione stared at him, then at Harry, who shrugged. "Ron, what --?" "He's from Durmstrang!" spat Ron. "He's competing against Harry! Against Hogwarts! You -- you're --" Ron was obviously casting around for words strong enough to describe Hermione's crime, "fraternising with the enemy, that's what you're doing!" Hermione's mouth fell open. "Don't be so stupid!" she said after a moment. "The enemy! Honestly -- who was the one who was all excited when they saw him arrive? Who was the one who wanted his autograph? Who's got a model of him up in their dormitory?" Ron chose to ignore this. "I s'pose he asked you to come with him while you were both in the library?" "Yes, he did," said Hermione, the pink patches on her cheeks glowing more brightly. "So what?" "What happened -- trying to get him to join spew, were you?" "No, I wasn't! If you really want to know, he -- he said he'd been coming up to the library every day to try and talk to me, but he hadn't been able to pluck up the courage!" Hermione said this very quickly, and blushed so deeply that she was the same color as Parvati's robes. "Yeah, well -- that's his story," said Ron nastily. "And what's that supposed to mean?" "Obvious, isn't it? He's Karkaroff's student, isn't he? He knows who you hang around with . . . He's just trying to get closer to Harry -- get inside information on him -- or get near enough to jinx him --" Hermione looked as though Ron had slapped her. When she spoke, her voice quivered. "For your information, he hasn't asked me one single thing about Harry, not one --" ". . .Why don't you go and find Vicky, he'll be wondering where you are," said Ron. "Don't call him Vicky!" Hermione jumped to her feet and stormed off across the dance floor, disappearing into the crowd. Ron watched her go with a mixture of anger and satisfaction on his face. "Are you going to ask me to dance at all?" Padma asked him. "No," said Ron, still glaring after Hermione. -A long quote, but it makes my point doesn't it? Ron is on a date with a very pretty girl, one of the prettiest in the year by all accounts, but he is hankering after Hermione. Ron used to be a BIG fan of Krum's, but not anymore. He accuses Krum of following Hermione around just to get to Harry, and this must hurt Hermione's feelings somewhat. In fact, she looks as though she has been 'slapped' by Ron's harsh words.
[After Krum jumps into the lake] "It's a lot colder where he comes from," said Hermione. "I suppose it feels quite warm to him." "Yeah, but there's still the giant squid," said Ron. He didn't sound anxious - if anything, he sounded hopeful. Hermione noticed his tone of voice, and frowned. "He's really nice, you know," she said. "He's not at all like you'd think, coming from Durmstrang. He likes it much better here, he told me." Ron said nothing. He hadn't mentioned Viktor Krum since the ball, but Harry had found a miniature arm under his bed on Boxing Day, which looked very much as though it had been snapped of a small model figure wearing Bulgaria Quidditch robes. - Woah! Suddenly he hates the guy?
'There's something funny, though,' said Hermione ten minutes later, holding her pestle suspended over a bowl of scarab beetles. 'How could Rita Skeeter have known ...?' 'Known what?' said Ron quickly. 'You haven't been mixing up Love potions, have you?' 'Don't be stupid,' Hermione snapped, starting to pound up her beetles again. 'No, it's just ... how did she know Viktor asked me to visit him over the summer?' Hermione blushed scarlet as she said this, and determinedly avoided Ron's eyes. (Notice it's RON'S eyes she's avoiding?!) 'What?' said Ron, dropping his pestle with a loud clunk. 'He asked me right after he's pulled me out of the lake,' Hermione muttered. 'After he'd got rid of his shark's head. Madam Pomfrey gave us both blankets and then he sort of pulled me away from the judges so they wouldn't hear, and he said, if I wasn't doing anything over the summer, would I like to -' 'And what did you say?' said Ron, who had picked up his pestle and was grinding it on the desk, a good six inches from his bowl, because he was looking at Hermione. 'And he did say he'd never felt the same way about anyone else,' Hermione went on, going so red now that Harry could almost feel the heat coming from her, 'but how could Rita Skeeter have heard him? She wasn't there ... or was she? Maybe she has got an Invisibility Cloak, maybe she sneaked into the grounds to watch the second task ...' 'And what did you say?' Ron repeated, pounding his pestle down so hard that it dented the desk. 'Well, I was too busy seeing whether you and Harry were OK to -' - Seems to be quite bothered whether she's seeing Krum again or not, doesn't he? And bothered about what she said.
"And he sneaked up here to search Snape's office!" said Ron triumphantly, looking at Hermione. - Triumphantly? He's trying to impress her?
"You only liked him [Lockhart] because he's handsome," said Ron scathingly. "Excuse me, I don't like people just because they're handsome!" said Hermione indignantly. - Ron is acting jealous here, perhaps because he is not handsome and therefore thinks Hermione will not like him. Is Hermione reassuring him?
Hermione told Harry that it would do him good to get away from the castle for a bit, and Harry didn't need each persuasion. "What about Ron, though?" he said. "Don't you want to go with him?" "Oh ... well..." Hermione went slightly pink. "I thought we might meet up with him in the Three Broomsticks..." "No," said Harry flatly. - This doesn't say TOO much, but the way Harry said it - "Don't you want to go with him?" - sounds almost like "I thought you preferred to be with him." Hermione just might've got the wrong idea when he said it and blushed.
Thanks," she (Parvati) said. "Padma's going to meet you in the entrance hall," she added to Ron. "Right," said Ron, looking around. "Where's Hermione?" "Where is Hermione?" he said again. - This happens throughout the period just before the Yule Ball, during the Yule Ball and after. Ron is constantly pressing Hermione's personal life, particularly whom she is going to the Yule Ball with. Hallo, he's about to go on his first date with a girl, and all he can think of is her!
Ron, however, walked right past Hermione without looking at her. [when she comes out with Krum] - Ron shows that he is VERY jealous, and does a terrible job at concealing it.
"Well, if you don't like it, you know what the solution is, don't you?" yelled Hermione; her hair was coming down out of its elegant bun now, and her face was screwed up in anger. "Oh yeah?" Ron yelled back. "What's that?" "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!" Ron mouthed soundlessly like a goldfish out of water as Hermione turned on her heel and stormed up the girls' staircase to bed. Ron turned to look at Harry. "Well," he spluttered, looking thunderstruck, "well - that just proves - completely missed the point-" Harry didn't say anything. He liked being back on speaking terms with Ron too much to speak his mind right now - but he somehow thought that Hermione had got the point much better than Ron had. - This is as good as any line that tell us Hermione likes Ron. "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!" tells the reader that she's hurt that he hadn't approached her first, and that she has feelings for him.
Krum had come to say Goodbye to Hermione. "Could i have a vord?" he asked her. "Oh...yes...all right," said Hermione, looking slightly flustered, followed Krum through the crowd and out of sight. "You'd better hurry up!" Ron called loudly after her. "The carriages'll be here in a minute!" He let Harry keep a watch for the carriages, however, and spent the next few minutes craning his neck over the crown to try and see what Krum and Hermione might be up to. They returned quite soon. Ron stared at Hermione, but her face was impassive. - Ron wants to know what is going on. Harry doesn't care.
"And you, too - you 'elped-" [Fleur] "Yeah," said Ron, looking extremely hopeful, "yeah, a bit-" Fleur swooped down on him, too, and kissed him. Hermione looked simply furious. - Hermione isn't furious that Fleur kissed Harry, is she? Only when it's Ron.
"We will see each uzzer again, I 'ope," said Fleur, as she reached him, holding out her hand. "I am 'oping to get a job 'ere, to improve my Eenglish." "It's very good already," said Ron, in a strangled sort of voice. Fleur smiled at him; Hermione scowled. - And again with the not liking Ron fancying Fleur.
"Who're you writing the novel to, anyway?" "Viktor." "Krum?" "How many other Viktors do we know? Ron said nothing, but looked disgruntled. - OotP Um, it's just because it's 'Vicky' that he's angry.
"What does she see in Krum?" Ron demanded, as he and Harry climbed the boys' stairs. ------» "Yeah, but apart from that," said Ron, sounding aggravated. "I mean, he's a grouchy git, isn't he?" - Ron is angry and frustrated at Hermione liking Krum.
(About Christmas presents) "... and that perfume's really unusual, Ron." - Harry gets Hermione a book, something rather impersonal but fitting for someone who likes to read. A perfect present from a friend. Poor, sweet Ron gets her some perfume- something girly, but not really suited for a girl he is trying to impress. It's also the sort of thing a boyfriend would give to his girlfriend.
"No problem," said Ron. "Who's that for anyway?" he added ... - Right after Hermione thanks Ron for giving her the perfume, he, embarrassed, turns the attention onto something else, feeling awkward that Harry is witnessing this and seeing his gift.
"Good luck, Ron," said Hermione, standing on tiptoe and kissing him on the cheek. "And you, Harry-" Ron seemed to come to himself slightly as they walked back across the Great Hall. He touched the spot on his face where Hermione had kissed him, looking puzzled as though he was not sure what had just happened. - There is a moment in the books where Hermione kisses Harry goodbye for the holidays, and he thinks nothing of it. In fact, it is not mentioned again in the next paragraph. Because it means nothing. When Hermione kisses Ron on the cheek, he touches the spot, and JK devotes a paragraph to this. Dropping ANVIL SIZED HINTS once again. He's thinking, "Am I just dreaming or did Hermione really kiss me on the cheek?"
Ron was looking at Hermione suspiciously. "You're not still in contact with him [Krum] are you?" "So what if I am?" said Hermione coolly, though her face was a little pink. "I can have a pen pal if I --" "He didn't only want to be your pen pal," said Ron accusingly. Hermione shook her head exasperatedly and ignored Ron, who was continuing to watch her. - Ron is 'accusing' towards Hermione concerning Krum. Harry just doesn't care at all.
"Are you that bad at kissing?" [Ron] "Dunno," said Harry, who hadn't considered this, and immediately felt rather worried. "Maybe I am." "Of course you're not," said Hermione absently, still scribbling away at her letter. "How do you know?" said Ron very sharply. - page 405 This goes back to Ron's jealousy again. At Hermione's remark that Harry is not bad at kissing, Ron tenses up assuming that perhaps Hermione has been kissing Harry, and that certainly will not do.
"How would it be ... if I refused to lend you my notes this year?" - Hermione "We'd fail our OWL," said Ron. "If you want that on your conscience, Hermione ..." "Well, you'd deserve it," she snapped. "You don't even try to listen to him, do you?" "We do try," said Ron. "We just haven't got your brains or your memory or your concentration - you're just cleverer than we are - is it nice to rub it in?" "Oh don't give me that rubbish," said Hermione, but she looked slightly mollified. - She likes his compliments, and let's be honest, what girl wouldn't like her crush complimenting her?
[Still in Potions class, after Slughorn realises that Harry's "best friend [who] is Muggle-born and the best in the year" is Hermione.] Hermione turned to Harry with a radiant expression and whispered, "Did you really tell him I'm the best in the year? Oh, Harry!" "Well, what's so impressive about that?" whispered Ron, who for some reason looked annoyed. "You are the best in the year - I'd've told him so if he'd asked me!" (HBP) -Ron is jealous and annoyed at Hermione's response.
"You can still see where those brains got hold of me in the Ministry, look," said Ron, shaking back his sleeves. "And it doesn't hurt that you've grown about a foot over the summer, either," Hermione finished, ignoring Ron." "I'm tall," said Ron inconsequentially. - Ron's obviously trying to impress Hermione, showing his scars and his height. It's cute.
What did surprise [Harry] was that when Ron drew level with them, Parvati suddenly nudged Lavender, who looked round and gave Ron a wide smile. Ron blinked at her, then returned the smile uncertainly. His walk instantly became something more like a strut. (...) Hermione, however, looked cold and distant all the way down to the stadium through the cool, misty drizzle, and departed to find a place in the stands without wishing Ron good luck. -Hermione's jealous!
"You did brilliantly, Ron!" This time it really was Hermione running towards them from the stands; Harry saw Lavender walking off the pitch, arm in arm with Parvati, a rather grump expression on her face. Ron looked extremely pleased with himself and even taller than usual as he grinned around at the team and at Hermione. - Ron loves Hermione's attention, and Hermione is quick to establish the fact that Ron is "hers" to Lavender, who doesn't react well.
[Hermione says] "Ron, what are you staring at?" "Nothing," said Ron, hastily looking away from the bar, but Harry knew he was trying to catch the eye of the curvy and attractive barmaid, Madam Rosmerta, for who he had long nursed a soft spot. "I expect 'nothing''s in the back getting more Firewhiskey," said Hermione waspishly. - Hermione's reply shows she is peeved with Ron eyeballing some other woman when she's around.
Harry groaned. Ron, meanwhile, who was attempting to burst the pod in the bowl by putting both hands on it, standing up and squashing it as hard as he could, said angrily, "And this is another party just for Slughorn's favourites, is it?" "Just for the Slug Club, yes," said Hermione. The pod flew out from under Ron's fingers and hit the greenhouse glass, rebounding on to the back of Professor Sprout's head and knocking off her old patched hat. Harry went to retrieve the pod; when he got back, Hermione was saying, "Look, I didn't make up the name 'Slug Club'-" "'Slug Club'," repeated Ron with a sneer worthy of Malfoy. It's pathetic. Well, I hope you enjoy your party. Why don't you try getting off with McLaggen, then Slughorn can make you King and Queen Slug-" "We're allowed to bring guests," said Hermione, who for some reason had turned a bright, boiling scarlet, "an I was going to ask you to come, but if you think it's that stupid then I won't bother!" Harry suddenly wished the pod had flown a little further so that he need not have been sitting there with the pair of them. Unnoticed by either, he seized the bowl that contained the pod and began to try and open it by the noisiest and most energetic means he could think of; unfortunately, he coul still hear every word of their conversation. "You were going to ask me?" asked Ron, in a completely different voice. "Yes," said Hermione angrily, "But obviously if you'd rather I get off with McLaggen ..." There was a pause while Harry continued to pound the resilient pod with a trowel. "No, I wouldn't," said Ron, in a very quiet voice. Harry missed the pod, hit the bowl, and it shattered. "Reparo," he said hastily, poking the pieces with his wand, and the bowl sprang back together again. The crash, however, appeared to have woken Ron and Hermione to Harry's presence. Hermione looked flustered and immediately started fussing about for her copy of Flesh-Eating Trees of the World to find out the correct way to juice Snargaluff pods; Ron, on the other hand, looked sheepish but also rather pleased with himself. "Hand that over, Harry," said Hermione hurriedly, "it says we're supposed to puncture them with something sharp." Harry possed her the pod in the bowl, he and Ron both snapped their goggles back over their eyews and dived, once more, for the stump. It was not as though he was really surprise, thought Harry, as he wrestles with a thorny vine intent upon throttling him; he had had an inkling that this might happen sooner or later. But he was not sure how he felt about it ... he and Cho were now too embarassed to look at each other, let alone talk to each other; what if Ron and Hermione started going out together, then split up? Could their friendship survive it? Harry remembered the few weeks they had not been talking to each other in the third year; he had not enjoyed trying to bridge the distance between them. And the, what if they didn't split up? What if they became like Bill and Fleur, and it became excruciatingly embarassing to be in their presence, so that he was shut out for good? "Gotcha!" yelled Ron, pulling a second pod from the stump just as Hermione managed to burst the first one opem, so that the bowl was full of tubers wriggling like pale green worms. The rest of the lesson passed without further mention of Slughorn's party. Although Harry watched his two friends more closely over the next few days, Ron and Hermione did not seem any different except that they were a little politer to each other than usual. Harry supposed he would just have to wait to see what happened under the influence of Butterbeer in Slughorn's dimly lit room on the night of the party. - Doesn't this make you want to CRY? I'm so glad it happened. This just killed me. Harry can bloody see it, he always knew it would happen. That bit where he says he isn't sure how he feels about it, it isn't because he is jealous, it's because they could possibly break up.
"D'you think Hermione did snog Krum? Ron asked abruptly, as they approached the fat lady. Harry gave a guilty start and wrenched his imagination away from a corridor in which no Ron intruded, in which he and Ginny were quite alone- "What?" he said confusedly. "Oh ... er ..." The honest answer was 'yes,' but he did not want to give it. However, Ron seemed to gather the worst from the look on Harry's face. "Dilligrout," he said darkly to the Fat Lady, and they climbed through the portrait hole into the common room. - This matters a lot to Ron, duh.
"You added Felix Felicis to Ron's juice this morning, that's why he saved everything! See! I can save goals without help, Hermione!" "I never said you couldn't-Ron, you thought you'd been given it, too!" But Ron had already strode past her out of the door with his broomstick over his shoulder. "Er," said Harry into the sudden silence; he had not expected his plan to backfire like this, "shall ... shall we go up to the party, then?" "You go!" said Hermione, blinking back tears. "I'm sick of Ron at the moment, I don't know what I'm supposed to have done ... " And she storem out of the changing room, too. Harry walked slowly back up to the grounds toward the castle through the crowd, many of whom shouted congratulations at him, but he felt a great sense of let-down; he had been sure that if Ron won the match, he and Hermione would be friends again immediately. He did not see how he could explain to Hermione that what she had done to offend Ron was kiss Viktor Krum, not when the offence had occured so long ago.
Harry looked into the corner she was indicating. There, in full view of the whole room, stood Ron wrapped so closely around Lavender Brown it was hard to tell whose hands were whose. "It looks like he's eating her face, doesn't it?" said Ginny dispassionately. "But I suppose he's got to refine his technique somehow. Good game, Harry." She patted him on the arm; Harry felt a swooping sensation in his stomach, but then she walked off to help herself to more Butterbeer. Crookshanks trotted after her, his yellow eyes fixed upon Arnold. Harry turned away from Ron, who did not look like surfacing soon, just in time to see the portrait hole closing. With a sinking feeling he thought he saw a mane of bushy brown hair whipping out of sight. He darted forwards, sidestepping Romilda Vane again, and pushed open the prtrait of the Fat lady. The corridor outside seemed to be deserted. "Hermione?" He found her in the first unlocked classroom he tried. She was sitting on the teacher's desk, alone except for a small ring of twittering yellow birds circling her head, which she had clearly just conjured out of midair. Harry could not help admiring her spellwork at a time like this. "Oh, hello, Harry," she said in a brittle voice. "I was just practising." "Yeah ... they're - er - really good ..." said Harry. He had no idea what to say to her. He was just wondering whether there was any chance that she had not seen Ron, that she had merely left the room because the partu was a little too rowdy, when she said, in an unnaturally high-pitched voice, "Ron seems to be enjoying the celebrations." "Er ... does he?" said Harry. "Don't pretend you didn't see him," said Hermione. "He wasn't exactly hiding it, was -" The door behind them burst open. To Harry's horror, Ron came in, laughing, pulling Lavender by the hand. "Oh," he said, drawing up short at the sight of Harry and Hermione. "Oops!" said Lavender, and she backed out of the room giggliing. The door swung shut behind her. There was a horrible swelling, billowing silence. Hermione was staring at Ron, who refused to look at her, but said with an odd mixture of bravado and awkwardness, "Hi, Harry! Wondered where you'd got to!" Hermione slid off the desk. The little flock of golden birds continued to twitter in circles around her head so that she looked like a strange, feathery model of the solar system. "You shouldn't leave Lavender waiting outside," she said quietly. "She'll wonder where you've gone." She walked very slowly and erectly towards the door. Harry glanced at Ron, who was looking relieved that nothing worse had happened. "Oppugno!" came a shriek from the doorway. Harry spun round to see Hermione pointing her want at Ron, her expression wold; the little flock of birds was speeding like a hail of fat golden bullets towards Ron, who yelped and covered his face with his hands, but the birds attacked, pecking and clawing at every bit of flesh they could reach. "Gerremoffme! he yelled, but with one last look of vindictive fury, Hermione wrenched open the door and disappeared through it. Harry though he heard a sob before it slammed. - Oh, poor, wronged Hermione.
Ron, whose hands still bore scratches and cuts from Hermione's bird attack, was taking a defensive and resentful tone. "She can't complain," he told Harry. "She snogged Krum. So she found out someone who wants to snog me, too. Well, it's a free country. I haven't done anything wrong." "Harry did not answer, but pretended to be absorbed in the book the were supposed to have read before Charms the following morning (Quintessence: A Quest). Determined as he was to remain friends with both Ron and Hermione, he was spending a lot of time with his mouth shut tight. "I never promised Hermione anything," Ron mumbled. "I mean, all right, I was going to go to Slughorn's party with her, but she never said ... just as friends ... I'm a free agent ..." Harry turned a page of Quintessence, aware that Ron was watching him. Ron's voice tailed away in mutters, barely audible over the loud crackling of the fire, though Harry thought he caught the words 'Krum' and 'can't complain' again. Hermione's timetable was so full that Harry could only talk to her properly in the evenings, when Ron was in any case so tighly wrapped around Lavender that he did not notice what Harry was doing. Hermione refused to sit in the common room while Ron was there, which meant that their conversations were held in whispers. "He's at perfect liberty to kiss whomever he likes," said Hermione, while the librarian, Madame Pince, proled the shelves behind them. "I really couldn't care less." She raised her quill and dotted and 'i' so ferociously that she punctured a hole in her parchment.
"Told you," said Hermione succintly. "Sooner you ask someone, sooner you they'll all leave you alone and you cam-" But her face suddenly turned blank; she had just spotted Ron and Lavender who were entwined in the same armchair. "Well, goodnight, Harry," said Hermione, though it was only seven o'clock in the evening, and she left for the girls' dormitory without another word.
"... oh, hi, Hermione!" Parvati positively beamed. Harry could tell that she was feeling guilty for having laughed at hermione in Transfiguration. He looked around and saw that Hermione was beaming back, if possible even more brightly. Girls were very strange sometimes. "Hi, Parvati!" said Hermione, ingnoring Ron and Lavender completely. "Are you going to Slughorn's party tonight?" "No invite," said Parvati gloomily. "I'd love to go, though, it sounds like it's going to be really good .. you're going, aren't you?" "Yes, I'm meeting Cormac at eight and we're-" There was a noise like a plunger being withdrawn from a blocked sink and Ron surfaces. Hermione actes as though she had not seen or heard anything. "-we're going up to the party together." "Cormac?" said Parvati. "Cormac McLaggen, you mean?" "That's right," said Hermione sweetly. "The one who almost" she put a great deal of emphasis on the word, "became Gryffindor keeper." "Are you going out with him, then?" asked Parvati, wide-eyed. "Oh - yes - didn't you know?" said Hermione, with a most un-Hermione-ish giggle. "No!" said Parvati, looking positively agog at this piece of gossip. "Wow, you like your Quidditch players, don't you? First Krum, then McLaggen ..." "I like really good Quidditch players," Hermione corrected her, still smiling. "Well, see you ... got to go and get ready for the party ..." She left. At once Lavender and Parvati put their heads together to discuss this new developement, with everything they had ever heard about McLaggen and all they had ever guessed about Hermione. Ron looked strangely blank and said nothing. Harry was left to ponder in silence the depths to which girls would sink to get revenge. - Jealous much?
"Serves you right for coming with him [McLaggen]." he [Harry] told her severely. "I thought he'd annoy Ron the most," said Hermione dispassionately.
"Well, yeah," said Ron. He hesitated a moment, then said, "Is Hermione really going out with McLaggen?" "I dunno," said Harry. "They were at Slughorn's party together, but I don't think it went very well." Ron looked slightly more cheerful as he delved deeper into his stocking. - This cheers Ron up, even though he has a girlfriend.
Hermione gave an almost inaudible sniff. She had been exceptionally quiet all day. Having hurtled, white-faced, up to Harry outside the hospital wing and demanded to know what had happened, she had taken almost no part in Harry and Ginny's obsessive discussion about how Ron had been poisoned, but merelystood beside them, clench-jawed and frightened looking, until at last they had been allowed in to see him. - Hermione is terrified at the thought of losing Ron.
"Then the poisoner didn't know Slughorn very well," said Hermione, speaking for the first time in hours and sounding as though she had a bad head-cold. "Anyone who knew Slughorn would have known there was a good chance he'd keep something that tasty for himself." "Er-my-nee," croaked Ron unexpectedly from between them. - HE'S SPEAKING HER NAME IN HIS SLEEP! OH GOD! You don't hear him croaking "'Arry", do you?
"If you don't want to go out with her any more, just tell her," said Harry. "Yeah ... well ... it's not that easy, is it?" said Ron. He paused. "Hermione going to look in before the match?" he added casually. "No, she's already gone down to the pitch with Ginny," "Oh, said Ron, looking rather glum. "Right. Well, good luck. Hope you hammer McLag- I mean, Smith." - Ron is thinking of Hermione whilst talking of his girlfriend.
"Ah, no!" said Ron, staring horror-struck at the parchement. "Dont say I'll have to write the whole thing out again!" "It's OK, we can fix it," said Hermione, pulling the essay towards her and taking out her wand. "I love you, Hermione," said Ron, sinking back in his chair, rubbing his eyes weaily. Hermione turned faintly pink, but merely said, "Don't let Lavender hear you saying that." "I won't, said Ron into his hands. "Or maybe I will ... then she'll ditch me ..." - Hermione wishes he did love her.. oh, but he does.
"Ron, you're making it snow," said Hermione patiently, grabbing his wrist and redirecting his wand away from the ceiling from which, sure enough, large white flakes had started to fall. Lavender Brown, Harry noticed, glared at Hermione from a neighboring table through very red eyes and Hermione immediately let go of Ron's arm. "Oh yeah," said Ron, looking down at his shoulders in vague surprise. "Sorry ... looks like we've all got horrible dandruff now ..." He brushed some of the fake snow off Hermione's shoulder. Lavender burst into tears. Ron looked immensly guilty and turned his back on her. "We split up," he told Harry out of the corner of his mouth. Last night. When she saw me coming out of the dormitory with Hermione. Obviously she couldn't see you, so she thought it had just been the two of us." "Ah," said Harry. "Well - you don't mind it's over, do you?" "No," Ron admitted. "It was pretty bad while she was yelling, but at least I didn't have to finish it." "Coward," said Hermione, though she looked amused.
They had one of their rare joint free periods after Charms and walked back to the common room together. Ron seemes to be positively light-hearted about the end of his relationshio with Lavender and Hermione seemed cheery, too, though when asked what she was grinning about she simply said, "It's a nice day."
Ron, he saw, was now holding Hermione and stroking her hair while she sobbed into his shoulder, tears dripping from his own long nose. - I know you don't think this is valid, snowy, but it IS, and so I left it in.
JK evidence...
Couric: "Any snogging with Hermione?" Rowling: [surprised] "Harry and Hermione! Do you think so?" Katie Couric: "No, I'm just kidding." J.K. Rowling: "Ron and Hermione, I should say. There's more tension there." -- From Katie Couric's June 2003 interview with JK Rowling
"Harry and Hermione are very platonic [platonic means nonsexual] friends. But I won't answer for anyone else. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink." -- From a National Press Club Luncheon chat with JK Rowling, October 1999)
Q: Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire? A: "Yes, something's "going on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy." -- From a BarnesandNoble.com chat with JK Rowling
Q: Does Hermione like Ron as more than a friend? A: The answer to that is in Goblet of Fire! (and haven't I already showed you that there is plenty of that?) -- From a BBC chat with JK Rowling, March 12, 2001)
Movie evidence...
#1- PS. When Hermione learns that Ron is to sacrifice himself in the chess game, Hermione gets upset and tells him that there must be another way. Did Hermione protest when Harry told her that he needed to go alone and face Voldemort? NO. And also, Hermione couldn't keep still when Ron had fallen from the transfigured chess piece.
#2- CoS. When Harry moves closer to see the petrified Mrs. Norris, you can see Hermione moving closer to Ron, and they glance at each other. Soon after, Ron and Hermione look at each other again when the students are leaving to go back to their dormitories.
#3- Hermione: "Do you think he's (Lockhart) alright?" Ron: "Who cares?" (Leans into her.)
#4- The "Hug" scene At the very end of the movie, Hermione comes running into the hall to congratulate Harry and Ron. She runs straight up to Harry and hugs him, but then stops herself before hugging ron (who becomes flustered at the idea of hugging her), and instead shakes his hand. Hermione feels nothing when she hugs Harry, but is too embarrassed to hug Ron.
#5 - PoA. The "Move Closer" scene While Harry is sneaking through Honeydukes under the invisibility cloak, Ron and Hermione are alone in Hogsmeade looking at the Shrieking Shack. Hermione mentions that it's "the most haunted building in Britian" and then asks "Do you want to move a bit closer?" Ron thinks she is talking about them moving closer together and starts getting all flustered, then Hermione realises and adds "to the shrieking shack!"
#6 - "They Might Have To Chop It" This scene is quite funny. After everyone comes out of the Shrieking Shack, Harry and Sirius stand looking at Hogwarts, while Hermione stays back with Ron, whose leg is broken. Hermione asks "is it painful?" and Ron reples, in a very would-be-brave voice, "so painful...it might have to be chopped". This can be regarded as just a bit of humour, but you can read that Ron is trying somewhat to be brave in front of, or to impress, Hermione.
Even Dan Radcliffe sees it...
"I think these two [Rupert (Ron) and Emma (Hermione)] are going to get together." - Daniel Radcliffe
"...the sideline story between Ron and Hermione is one of my favorites, as it's just a cover-up so they can get attention of each other. There's a huge amount of sexual tension between them, which is great and provides much-needed comic relief because the film is very depressing and angry." - Daniel Radcliffe Lizo: "Do you think Ron and Hermione are suited?" Daniel Radcliffe: Yeah absolutely, very much so--they are complete polar opposites but suit each other perfectly."
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Now Pumpkinhead, we want TONS of quotes that support Harry/Hermione. Failure to do so will suggest two things:
Colleen and YunaKitty2987- Thank you for your support in the pie movement.
there is NOTHING wrong with being a hormonal 14 year old, as i am 14... uh.. well, technically im about 600, but here on earth im 14.
Also, pumkinhead, this is simply rediculous. RON + HERMIONE = TRUE LOVE. i understand that your dissapointed that your ship didnt work out, but COME ON!! GET OVER IT!! your acting like a hormonal 12 year old...
Hey! Don't underestimate hormonal 12 year olds, as I am one myself! lol, this blog is hilarious. All that it's done is give us SANE fans something to laugh about. Thank you to those who actually think rationally. I salute you. But that's ok about that comment, it just makes me a little bit offended...
But really, this has gone WAY TOO FAR. It's been, what, a month since HBP came out? My friend was an H/Hr shipper, and I'll admit, I did nothing short of printing out the interview and sticking it in her face, but I feel a little sorry about that. Anyway, she got over it.
Pumpkinhead I used to be a Harry/Hermione shipper a year ago, until I figured out that in no way is Harry interested in Hermione. Unlike Ginny, who makes him feel allwonderful inside. Belive me Pumpikinbrains, I am no longer a Patsy(look that up). What gave you the audacity to create this site is so hilarius, my tear ducts were nearly depleted.We Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny shippers are impregnable to your views. So read instead of looking at pictures from the movie sets between scenes. WE DEMAND REAL PROOF!
You are so sad. There's a reason why Emerson said delusional. You are. You can't take defeat gracefully like the rest of the H/Hr shippers can you? I'm not going to lie and say that I wouldn't be devastated if H/G sank, but I know that I wouldn't take it as far as you have. Have some respect for yourself.
My last email to Snowy. Let's please get over the petty words:
Let's stop and talk like adults here, okay? The last thing I need is you calling me a "fugly bitch" as I try to talk to you. I'll admit, the first time we exchanged words, I was mad at you for insulting JK, and I snapped a little. That is, however, my opinion and I will stand by it. All anyone really wants out of you is an apology to JK Rowling. I don't care what you say about Emerson (as much as I love and admire the guy), as long as you stop this nonsense. Your "cause" is becoming a great hindrance to surfing Harry Potter forums and such, because people angry at you are constantly flooding on. Not to mention, don't you think that what's going on might be hurting JK? What's happening is not her fault, even you must concede to that. She's had these books planned for years, and what she does with the characters is her choice. JK did not call Harry/Hermione shippers delusional, and Emerson has apologized. Please, just be a bigger person and end this. Surely, you must realize most of your signatures are insulting you? Barely any are in support of you. I'm asking you, as a fellow Harry Potter fan. YunaKitty2987
Sorry but I don't believe "Mark Fraser" is a real doctor 1. Why would a psocologist be on a HP site? 2. Fraser is probably a play on words of Fraiser (coindedentaly pronounced fraser) Crane a Psycologist on the T.V. show "Cheers" and later "Fraiser" (he was the same character in both shows) Finaly asumming he is a real doctor he holds no power here because: 1. The Harry Hermione picture is the ACTORS.I don't care if Dan and Emma do it right there in the sow that dosen't mean /Hr will happen 2. THE BROKEN WAND ISn'T ANY FORM OF SYBOLISM LIVE WITH IT!!!
Also pumpkin head I feel a lot better now your picture is right you cant' stop True Love o=r True Fans!!! No I know that Ron and Hermione will always love each other and that I am completely UNSTOPPABLE
READ THE BOOKS
I SHIP R/HR AND H/G
THE TRUE HP SHIPS!!!!
SUPPORT BOOK 7
ALL HAIL MISS TRISH, TIFFI, THE GREY LADY, JONATHAN AND EMERSON: LEADERS OF THE GOOD FIGHT FOR SANITY
Once again, they are actors! Just like what everyone else said! And if want flirty stuff from the Movie it happened with Ron and Hermione too. You're just too thick to notice. Oh and this is based off of the books not the 3rd movie, which by the way is wrong on many parts, not that it wasn't a bad movie but it had alot of missing parts in it. Anyways! Get over Emma and Daniel, they would make a cute couple but not Harry and Hermione. ~Jade~
But hey, at least they can't stop true fans like us (I think it was coonskin13 who said this). We like the books well enough to go with whatever happens. I personally preferred Harry/Luna over Harry/Ginny, but I'm glad that Ginny made Harry so happy. And about the love potion theory? How did Ginny manage to give it to Harry for like, THE ENTIRE YEAR and WHILE SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND?
TRUE friends? What the heck? Hark who's talking, you filthy hypocrite. Just a reminder to all the other whiney H/Hrs out there: "YOU CAN'T STOP CANON, BABY! LIVE WITH IT!"
....oh, and JKR owns you. ;) But you already know that.
You guys are too much, really. Why did you get so upset about the mugglenet interview? By getting as upset as you are (and do as much anti-mugglent stuff as you do,) all you're doing is proving Emerson's point. In all honesty, one of my ships is SB/RL, JK sunk it. I've had it insulted loads of times on various message boards, livejournal communities, websites, etcetera, but you don't see me or any other SB/RL shippers campaigning against the release of the 7th book. So he's with Tonks now, big deal. That was the author's vision. JK didn't write these books to make YOU happy, she wrote them to write some books. You read them, you accept what is written whether you like it or not, or you don't read them. Being angry at Mrs Rowling at this point is simply absurd. Maybe from all standpoints you can think of, Hermione and Harry would have gone together. Maybe they are compatable, but there's one huge thing missing. Ready, kids? MUTUAL ATTRACTION. People say all that time that my best friend of opposite gender and I would go great together, but the problem is that we don't like each other. You see? There is something called chemistry, and Hermione and Harry don't have it. Sorry, but it's true. You can still like the idea of H/Hr, but really, this is just nonsense.
I'm not trying to hide behind an anonymous comment, I just can't figure out how to work LJ. Anyway, to me (an ardent shipper of no one because I read the books for the plot, not the romance) that picture gives an unbiased interpretation of two friends talking. No true love, nada. Two friends talking, one consoling the other about a finally realized reason behind Harry's parents' deaths. Don't see no true love at all.
I agree. You can't stop true love - the true love of Ron and Hermione that has been going on for six books and planned for 15 years.
And true fans? I would think that a TRUE fan wouldn't insult JK like this and put together a ban on her next book and a petition to get her to say sorry for telling the truth.
Oh, and guess what? Romance isn't the main focus of the books. Romance is the sub-plot. If you're asking people to ban book seven because your ship didn't sail, that's pretty pathetic and I suggest actually reading the books.
You see, there's this evil person called Voldemort and he wants Harry dead. Harry must fight against him to protect the Wizarding World. In all six books, the only Harry romance we've had is one date with Cho, and then a few weeks with Ginny - until he broke up with her to protect her from harm (as he cares deeply for her).
Even if there was no romance in the next book, it wouldn't matter as the story of Harry Potter is a truly amazing one. And it's obvious that you cannot see that and are not a true fan - hardly a fan at all.
Why is it that people say they "slept like a baby" when babies wake up like every two hours? Why do birds bob their heads when they walk? CAPTAIN STUPID QUOTE STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
get some money from your mother and go buy a life cuz it seems u really need one badly. "You can't stop true love...or true fans!" i agree. YOU can't stop true love (H/G, Hr/R) and YOU can't stop true fans (us non-insane ones) and YOU definately CANNOT STOP BOOK 7!! IT WILL RULE!!!
Say your best friend had just found out that his parents best friend betrayed them. Would go confort him because he is your best friend or would you stay in feel for ya man" just because you are of the opposite sex. Someone had to go to Harry because wouldn't it look awkward for that little emotional moment if either one of them was far away. It couldn't be Ron because then we would have all this "Ron and Harry forever!" shippers, and that is crazy. So it had to be Hermione. And as for where his hands were, you guys are really insane. What did you expect him to do, put them up in the air because he didn't want it to look like he was wanting Hermione's figure. You would just come up with some mad defenition that his hands were at a 70 degree angle and if he put them down the would be right at Hermione. Never, not once in the books had Harry described even a feeling anything but friendship for Hermione. Plus does "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione." ring a bell? Emerson was right. Some of you (not saying all because some have coped with the very well) are a bunch of delusional millitants who need to get a life other than H/Hr fanfiction and believing its real. I wouldn't be suprised if you all acted out little scences form HP fanfiction. Get a life and grow up. And as for you Dr. Mark, they are actors in that scene, and as for the picture of Ron at the bottem it shows: A. That Ron is right handed B. That his wand is broken C. That he is unhappy that his wand is broken D. That Pumpkinhead is a peverted man like 90% of the men population out their. I don't understand why people want to give perverted refrences to Harry Potter. In that picture Ron is like 12 years old, and he probably doesn't even know about anything, because knowing Molly, she wouldn't tell Ron anything. The H/Hr Delusional Shippers: You are crazy. I'm honestly getting a bit concerend about some of you guys. You need to really think about therapy. I hadn't really relized how crazy you guys were until now. It's all right to like other things, but when you petition to try to get the 7 book banned, it's going a little far.
Dearest pumkinhead, someday will you PLEASE get some SOLID EVIDENCE from the books? Maybe you should try writing a HP/HG fic. Just don't insult the author we love. FREE PIE FOR ALL!!!
AHA! This is so sad, I think somebody needs to move on. H/Hr will never happen, JKR has stated that they are "platonic" friends, ie they will never get together. Deal with it.
We, the undersigned, hereby petition Simon Fuller,author of the Pop Idol, to immediately apologize for his remarks included inthe interviewinparticular the following words:
"Yes, we do now know thatit's Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul."
In addition, we strongly DEMAND that Simon Fuller apologize for laughing at the term"delusional," as it was applied to the millions of Simon/Randy shippers throughout the world.
We also petitionSimon Fuller to rectify the situationin AmericanIdol 6, clearing up any questions the few Simon/Paula shippers(the truly"delusional" ones) floating around might have about the one true romantic relationship that matters in the American Idol, that of Simon and Randy.
Otherwise, we have no choice but to ban American Idol 6 when it comes out. As the millions of Simon/Randy shippers are the only"true" fans of the AmericanIdol series,this action will seriously undoubtedly force Fremantle Media to reconsider any futureAmerican Idol.
One of the hugest mistrials of all time has occurred. Harry and Hermione have been torn apart by an author who listens to the clamoring of R/H fangirl shippers. Instead of following this central plotline of the books through to its beautiful concluding page, JRK (the JERK) has flipped things around on a whim. This blog site is dedicated to speaking the truth into power and not backing down from those who are using the phrase "delusional" as a weapon against True Fans.
Who I am
My name on the internet is pumpkinhead, and I am one of the True Fans voicing their opinions about the disaster known as HBP, where the love of Harry and Hermione is ransacked. Email me at harryandhermione4ever@gmail.com
59 Comments:
"You can't stop true love...or true fans!"
Indeed Pumpkinhead, and that is why you cannot stop Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny, and why you cannot stop The Good Fight For Sanity from defeating your pathetic campaign easily.
By Anonymous, at 3:04 AM
I like how you think you've being clever when your post is pretty much just saying "I know you are, but what am I?"
The Good Fight For Sanity" sounds pretty funny, though. Stick with that, the capital letters make you sound like you are seriously fighting for some higher Ideal when you are really just supporting mass market lowest common demonator garbage known as R/H.
By pumpkinhead, at 3:09 AM
Garbage? Perhaps you should check out the massive Heron evidence I've just posted.
Your picture shows Dan and Emma together. If your whole cause was that Dan and Emma should get together in REAL LIFE, you may have a point. After all, lots of examples exist of film couples who have worked together: Tim Burton and Helen Bonham Carter (Charlie and The Chocolate Factory), Johnny Depp used to go out with Winona Ryder (and they did "Edward Scissorhands"), Tom Cruise used to date Nicole Kidman (and they did "Eyes Wide Shut") and of course, there is the "Will they? Won't they?" of Hollywood, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie (Mr and Mrs Smith). However, we're not talking about Dan and Emma, we're talking about Harry and Hermione, and you are still yet to provide solid evidence for the existence of Harry/Hermione.
By Anonymous, at 3:26 AM
If you want us to take you seriously, pumpkinhead, you need to provide us with quotes from the books and from interviews with JKR, not a picture from the film of Dan and Emma - that picture conveys the message: "I support the H/Hr ship because OMG Dan and Emma look oh so CUTE together!!! *squeal*"
If you do decide to provide quotes, a word of advice: don't post the same quote that Snowy had on her site (the one where Hermione is shaking because she's nervous about her OWL results) because standing next to Harry and shaking about her results doesn't prove anything!
By Anonymous, at 3:26 AM
You know what? I went into my fanfiction communities today, and I got humiliated by a bunch of hardcore R/Hr shippers for shipping H/Hr, and now I have the label "delusional' and 'crazy'. I really hope your enjoying the fact that most 'True' Harmony shippers are paying for what YOU and Snowy are doing.
And besides, a REAL and TRUE fan does not simpoly ship Harry ad Herione, they are the ones who cheer Harry on for every victory, and feel bad for him when he loses, not because he didn't get Hermione. If you love Harry Potter THAT much, as you say you do, than be happy he is with Ginny Weasley.
By Anonymous, at 6:33 AM
All right, i think we need to take a step back here and get our priorities straight. Firstly, I have no amount of ill-will towards those delusional H/Hr shippers. Know why? Cuz its pointless, thats why!
Really, NOTHING can be gained by bashing shippers of any kind, so STOP!! *eats pie*
Secondly, IT. IS. A. BOOK. I LOVE HP but I REFUSE to go around and bash everybody who has different shipping views cuz two FICTIONAL characters didn't hook up.
I simply refuse to boycott book seven (and you would be wise to refuse to as well) and i think that ANYONE who critisizes Jo is delusional. If you HONESTLY think she had Ron and Hermione hook up cuz a bunch of fans "said so", i think you have WAYYYY underestimated her talent as a writer!!!
In conclusion, I think we could all do to put our time and energy to more productive matters, such as ending world hunger, ending the AIDS crisis, ect.
By Anonymous, at 7:04 AM
Why don’t you just accept the books the way they are? J.K. Rowling writes the books she planned them and how she liked to see them, not what you like. There is always fan fiction for you, and I’m sure you will continue writing with fan fiction. Once in a while I find a very good H/Hr fan fiction. I respect your beliefs but sometimes things cannot go the way you want. Harry Potter isn’t all about romance (even though it’s quite a large part of the fandom). What I think is more important is that it identifies things such as friendship, loyalty, and how important it is to have faith.
By Anonymous, at 9:33 AM
I love you, Jonathan. You are so wise.
By Anonymous, at 10:15 AM
And of course, there's Yoda, with his pie. Hi, Yoda! And the lovely misstrish.
And the sane harmonian down there. *hugs* So good to see you. ^_^
By Anonymous, at 10:18 AM
Why thank you, yunakitty2987, I appreciate the compliment. I shall point you in the general direction of a petition doing much better in terms of ACTUAL SUPPORT than both Snowy's and Pumpkinhead's put together. Add your voice to The Good Fight For Sanity, and pledge full loyalty to Emerson and JKR:
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loyalty_to_emerson
I actually have to say another thing about Snowy, in both of her web pages she has the term "ultimate betrayal" as part of the web address. What ultimate betrayal? J.K. Rowling wrote the books as she planned them. She never, at any point, promised that the Harmony ship would sail. In fact, she gave strong ANVIL-SIZED hints throughout interviews and the books. These hints can be seen in the evidence that I have provided in the "It's been a while" thread.
By Anonymous, at 10:50 AM
THAT'S FROM THE FRIGGIN' MOVIE SET BETWEEN SCENES, NOT THE BOOKS PUMPKINBRAINS!
By Anonymous, at 1:03 PM
Also, many of the "hints" the H/Hr shippers use are from the movies! Well, Jo didn't direct the films, did she?
PS just to clarify things, im a girl :)
By Anonymous, at 1:51 PM
You know what, you need to back off!!
You can't stop true fans becuase the real fans here are sticking with cannon. You're acting like a kid that didn't get his way.
R/H and H/G are the winning ships. If Harry/Hermione does become the leading ship more power to ya but get a life!! The books aren't about who gets together with who! It's about Harry fighting Voldemort.
Furthermore a picture from the movie proves nothing! That's the directors opinion, not JK's!! There were plenty of R/H moments in the movie too!
There is cannon evidence and that is better then your freakin' picture! I am rambling but I don't care!!
A Proud R/H and H/G Shipper,
Mage
By Anonymous, at 2:38 PM
Harry/Hermione: a psychoanalysis
I must say, the evidence Pumpkinhead put up, while certainly not conclusive, does require further analysis. I am a certified clinical psychologist specializing in adolescent behavior, so I know a good deal about the relationship dramas of today's teenagers.
Let us examine the picture pumpkinhead has posted on his site from the HP movie. I am referring to the picture of Harry and Hermione that is in the main message of this post, "Just a little reminder to R/H shippers..." It shows Harry's hands extended horizontally towards Hermione. It is of course no surprise where his hands are pointing. Extend those hands another 6-12 inches, and that's where Harry's subconscious mind really wants his hands to be. The open, almost grasping motion of his hands shows that his id is just wanting to reach out those few extra inches for Hermione's breasts. As a teenager recently entering puberty, he is naturally fascinated by Hermione's recent development, and though his id wants to explore further, his superego is preventing him from moving in completely.
Let us now examine Hermione in the same picture. Her left hand is stroking Harry's leg. Freud has said that women often view male legs as a corollary to the penis. In essence, since both are limb-like structures originating from the waist/crotch region, females view the leg almost as a bigger and more desirable replacement for the penis. This is the origin of the common belief among women that a male's penis size correlates with the size of his feet - the foot/leg represents the corollary to the penis. Clearly, since Hermione is touching Harry's leg, her subconscious id is telling her that she should just continue sliding her hand up the leg to reach the pelvic region, but her superego, the governor of moral thought and societal standards, convinces her that this would be inappropriate and that she will have to settle for the leg - the phallic corollary of the penis.
Adolescence is a confusing time for all people, and the conflicting hormonal impulses often leave us unsure of what exactly we should do about our feelings. In this picture, Harry and Hermione are no exception.
Finally, we have the picture of Ron in the sidebar, at the bottom of the right side. (You might need to scroll down to see this picture.) You can clearly see that Ron is holding his broken wand, with a somewhat disappointed look on his face. Clearly, this foreshadows Ron's sexual frustration. It is not hard to see that the wand is a phallic object. Certainly, pumpkinhead seems to ave picked up on this clue, with his caption: "It happens to a lot of guys, Ron." He is referring of course to the fact that Ron's quest for sexual satisfaction will never be realized, and thus, his "wand" (i.e. penis) is broken and limp. However, we should not feel too sorry for Ron. Adolescent sexual frustration is perfectly normal, and is key to the psychological development process. The fact that that Ron is grasping his "wand" in his right (presumably dominant) hand suggests that Ron will relieve his frustration through masturbation. Most teenage boys do masturbate regularly, and it is a healthy way of coping with the hormonal changes and impulses that occur in the adolescent male. While the picture of Ron shows him somewhat disappointed, as he should be since he will likely not receive sexual satisfaction from the object of his lust and desire, he has a half smile as he grasps his limp "wand." He realizes, "Hey, maybe I don't need a girl right now after all...actually, this is feeling pretty good!" Through this, Ron is learning that he can function perfectly fine on his own, whether Hermione wants to be his girlfriend or not.
Clearly, the Freudian analysis of this issue suggests that there may indeed be more to the Harry/Hermione/Ron love triangle than meets the eye. These clues are all quite significant when taken in the appropriate psychological context. I am glad to see that J.K. Rowling has not been afraid to tackle the issue of teenage sexuality head on, and the immense popularity of the books will only serve to educate our youth in complex issues of social and behavioral psychology.
I invite you all to respond with your thoughts on the matter. Perhaps we can approach the true answer to this interesting social experiment using the Socratic method?
Sincerely,
Mark Fraser, Ph.D
By Anonymous, at 4:24 PM
Mark Fraser, Those are just the ACTORS! Not the characters themselves.
By Anonymous, at 5:36 PM
wow, thanks for that comment, Dr. Fraser. Are you really a doctor? That's pretty cool you would be researching these issues. I think JRK has made a smart move by writing about teenage love in her books, but the story has just wrung a pretty false tune in the most latter. My picture of Ron is meant as a joke but I'm glad you picked up on the "imagery" there, I was worried it might go over the heads of all the trolls who can't figure subtleties out.
Your talking about the id and superego and things like that was pretty complicated but I think it adds up the issue at stake here pretty fully. Harry and Hermione have had a relationship thats been pretty physically restrained but its always been a animal-like attraction, a sign of true love. It's brewed on the inside, and is only apparent when we here Harry or Hermione's inner thoughts. Unlike the flirting between Hermione with Ron, which has always been sort of a mental or social thing, the True Love of Harry and Hermione is based from the inside of their psyches. The pictures I have chosen express this inner, brewing attraction and how it manifolds into a subtle physical one.
Thanks a lot for posting a comment! I think you might actually be a real doctor even though on the internet people like to fake being knowledgable. And you give a nice little writing lesson for all the trolls around here!
By pumpkinhead, at 5:45 PM
"Harry and Hermione are very platonic [platonic means nonsexual] friends. But I won't answer for anyone else. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink." -- From a National Press Club Luncheon chat with JK Rowling, October 1999)
I don't know how to make it any clearer than that, other than "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione."
I agree with what misstrish said. The only thing the picture shows is that Dan and Emma look cute together (which they do, I will admit, but they're only ACTORS).
All I've ever seen between Harry and Hermione is a strong, caring friendship. They're there for each other, get along well, and obviously are very close, but I've never seen any romantic feeling between the two of them. Yes, Harry and Hermione love each other, but it's the best friend kind of love, and it doesn't go any deeper than that.
By Anonymous, at 6:05 PM
Oops, sorry, Yoda. No harm meant, really. *gives pie as humble apology*
And Jonathan- I've been there, my friend. Oh, how I've been there. I am definitely a thug. (I'm with you on LJ. ^_^)
By Anonymous, at 6:48 PM
"You sound like a lonely and hormonal 14 year old!"
Hey, don't underestimate lonely/hormonal 14 year olds- I am one! Do not insult us by comparing us to dimwits like snowball or pumpkinbrain! ;-)
And also, no offense pumpkinpie, but I have a vague suspicion that Dr. Mark Fraser was taking the mickey. And you haven't yet mentioned my comment under your post concerning your first signing of the petition, I am most interested as to your reaction.
By Anonymous, at 7:41 PM
Pumpkinhead, you make me laugh. Try looking up the word "True" in a Webster's II New College Dictionary, or any other dictionary. The definition in this Webster's dictionary says "Being consistent with reality or fact," which you are not, if the Harry Potter books are fact in Potterverse and here, therefore you cannot be true. You were better off writing essays, I think. Those were always much better than photoshopped images of Harry and Hermione and photos from the film taken out of context. Keep trying! You'll get to Princeton level writing in no time if you practice enough. Maybe you should try to write your own fantasy or science fiction stories, too. That would be a great way to release the energy, creativeness, and talent you have in writing. Who knows, maybe you could write a series more popular than Rowling.
By Anonymous, at 7:47 PM
Dear oh dear Pumpkinhead, once again you embarass yourself further:
"And you give a nice little writing lesson for all the trolls around here!"
That's a bit rich coming from someone whose writing totally lacks evidence to support it, and whose grammar has become infamous on this blog for being utterly APPALLING.
Anyway, WHERE IS THE HARRY/HERMIONE EVIDENCE? You have still yet to provide solid, concrete evidence of Harry/Hermione having been hinted at in the books/movies/JKR interviews. We at the Good Fight For Sanity have, however, as the sixth email I have sent to Snowy and the concrete Heron evidence that I posted on your blog shows.
By Anonymous, at 8:33 AM
Here, once again, is the sixth email which I have sent to Snowy, though it also applies strongly to Pumpkinhead. And this time Pumpkinhead, instead of avoiding the issues I present with a pathetic comment like: "it's good to see you have the philosophy that the longer your essay, the stronger your point." This time, actually ADDRESS the issues. Paragraph by paragraph. Here we go:
Well, firstly Snowy, I would like to point you in the direction of a petition gaining much more support than yours is achieving:
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loyalty_to_emerson
Check out the number of signatures, and the actual signature goal. That's right, a realistic target has been passed. The vast majority of signatures are actually SUPPORTING my petition.
Now I know what you're going to say before you even say it. You will undoubtedly say something along the lines of "The proof is in the numbers, bucko" or something similar. Wrong.
petition: A formal written request, esp. signed by many people , appealing to authority in some cause.
Unfortunately, your petition does not apply to this rule for the "cause" of your petition, in other words the statement of your petition, is in fact generating a hell of a lot more abuse and mockery. In reality, the actual amount of GENUINE signatures that SUPPORT your petition still ranks below 100. Besides which, even IF you managed to get a million signatures, that STILL would not be enough. The Harry Potter Series has a LOT more fans than that. HBP did get distributed in what I think was 47 countries after all.
Here, I am now going to deconstruct the moronic statement of your petition:
"We, the undersigned, hereby petition Joanne Kathleen Rowling, author of the Harry Potter book series, to immediately apologize for her remarks included in the interview conducted by Emerson of MuggleNet and Melissa of The Leaky Cauldron, in particular the following words:
"Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione." "
This is not the only time that JKR has hinted at the Heron ship being the one that would sail. She also mentioned that Harry and Hermione were very "platonic" friends. Platonic means non-sexual. Plus, there is that ANVIL-SIZED quote that appears in Goblet of Fire in which Harry denies "very firmly" that he fancies Hermione. Even if you don't believe in the Heron ship, that quote alone should have at least given you the sign that Harry/Hermione would never happen. Also, there is the tons of evidence provided by Mina, a lot of which you STILL have not deconstructed. Where are those further "deconstructions" hmm? Did you give up after it turned out that people were deconstructing your deconstructions of the Heron evidence, but no-one was able to deconstruct the deconstructions of your pathetic so-called Harmony evidence that you provided?
"In addition, we strongly DEMAND that Joanne Kathleen Rowling apologize for laughing at the term "delusional," as it was applied to the millions of Harry/Hermione shippers throughout the world."
Millions? Hardly. I think you'll find, based on the evidence of the large Heron support in your petition, the Loyalty to Emerson petition, and the Crazy Shipper Ban petition, that Harmony shippers are horribly outnumbered ever since HBP. And she wasn't laughing at the term "delusional", she was laughing at Emerson. After all, Emerson's attitude is "If you don't like it, get off my site." What makes Mugglenet so successful is that while it is the biggest provider of Harry Potter related news, it also reflects the personal opinions of those who write for Mugglenet: that is to say the people who write the editorials, and Emerson himself.
"We also petition Joanne Kathleen Rowling to rectify the situation in Book 7, clearing up any questions the few Ron/Hermione shippers (the truly "delusional" ones) floating around might have about the one true romantic relationship that matters in the Harry Potter books, that of Harry and Hermione. "
Have you actually read the book? If you had then you would realise that Heron shippers are not delusional, for it was Ron/Hermione that happened, not Harry/Hermione. You've provided pitifully little Harry/Hermione, where as we truly SANE fans in The Good Fight For Sanity have come up with TONS of evidence. Also, Harry Potter is by no means a romantic novel. Au contraire, the main focus of the books is Harry's continuing battle with Lord Voldemort. The romance in the books is little more than a subplot, rather much like Quidditch, and the lessons which the students take.
But then again, what would you know about the books? If I may recall, one of your posts on your petition stated that your beliefs are not based on the books, but the MOVIES, saying, and I quote: "Dan and Emma would look so much more cute together" If this was a petition to get Dan and Emma together in REAL LIFE, then you may have a point. After all, lots of examples exist of film couples who have worked together: Tim Burton and Helen Bonham Carter (Charlie and The Chocolate Factory), Johnny Depp used to go out with Winona Ryder (and they did "Edward Scissorhands"), Tom Cruise used to date Nicole Kidman (and they did "Eyes Wide Shut") and of course, there is the "Will they? Won't they?" of Hollywood, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie (Mr and Mrs Smith). However, we're not talking about Dan and Emma, we're talking about Harry and Hermione, and you are still yet to provide solid evidence for the existence of Harry/Hermione.
"Otherwise, we have no choice but to ban Book 7 when it comes out. As the millions of Harry/Hermione shippers are the only "true" fans of the Harry Potter book series, this action will seriously affect books sales, and will undoubtedly force Bloomsbury and Scholastic to reconsider any future Harry Potter publications."
This bit is just hilarious. Please learn some grammar lessons: it's BOYCOTT not BAN. And those who are asking JKR to change her books are "true fans"? To quote Dr. Evil: "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhttttttttttt" Also, what "future Harry Potter publications" do you speak of? In case you haven't noticed, Harry Potter 7 will the last book in the series, and unless JKR decides to release a HP Encyclopaedia (which is highly unlikely considering that detailed HP encyclopaedias already exist on the internet (see Lexicon, Mugglenet, or Wikipedia)), after HP7 there will simply be the movies that will need to happen and then that's it. JKR can put her feet up and have a well deserved rest. Of course, the books will still be open for debate even AFTER they have finished, such will be it's great legacy.
If you are really wanting a romantic novel, then I suggest that you stop disgracing the internet with your laughable delusions and that you read books by the Brontes, stuff like Pride and Prejudice and Wuthering Heights and Emma. Or if you want something more recent, try His Dark Materials. It fits in with your whole "The Hero and the Heroine find love with each other" logic.
Now, compare your petition statement, with mine:
"Shortly after the release of the sixth book in the Harry Potter series: Half Blood Prince, two people, representing two different websites: Mugglenet and The Leaky Cauldron, were lucky enough to interview the great Joanne Kathleen Rowling herself. During the interview, humourous banter was exchanged, particularly on the subject of shippers. Unfortunately, a misinterpretation of the word "delusional" used during the interview led to a petition and an angry web page being created by Otter Snow, or Snowy if you prefer. Otter Snow is a Harry/Hermione shipper who was furious that this ship did not sail in HBP. Her fury can be seen here:
http://www.geocities.com/otter_snow/ULTIMATE_BETRAYAL
and of course here:
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/ultimate_betrayal
But Otter Snow is not the only hostile Harry/Hermione shipper (or "Harmony" shippers if you prefer). There is of course Pumpkinhead, and his site:
http://harryandhermione4ever.blogspot.com
Pumpkinhead's resentment of Miss Rowling even stretches to calling her JRK. He, like Otter Snow, is incapable of using decent facts to support his evidence. Instead, he focuses on the so-called "travesty" that "one of the greatest love stories has not been told".
What both Otter Snow and Pumpkinhead fail to realise is that the Harry Potter series is not, and never will be, centred on the romance. So much more important things happened in HBP, such as the death of an extremely important character, and the issue of whether Severus Snape is truly evil. So to vent anger and abuse at Miss Rowling simply because two characters did not end up together is utterly pathetic.
Anyway, what with abuse raining in on Miss Rowling and Emerson, we now feel that the time is right to show undying support and loyalty for Mugglenet, a site fronted by Emerson, who actually manages to be extremely funny. And of course the time is right also to pledge support for Miss Rowling in her writing of the books, and of course, support for Book 7.
Therefore, we the undersigned pledge full loyalty to Emerson and to Miss Rowling.
Thank you."
No grammatical errors, no unrealistic aims, hardly any abuse in response, and most importantly, the petition has passed its signature goal of 100 (a realistic target), and still it continues to grow.
Finally, a haiku.
Face it, you're losing,
Sanity's going to triumph,
Leave while you still can.
DEAL WITH IT
SUPPORT BOOK 7
ALL HAIL MISS TRISH, TIFFI, THE GREY LADY, JONATHAN AND EMERSON: LEADERS OF THE GOOD FIGHT FOR SANITY
•Emerson's Thugs Rock On Forever•
RID THE INTERNET OF LUNATICS
Give Snowy hell from us Peeves...
"Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione."
Get. Over. It.
By Anonymous, at 8:38 AM
Next, I present, once again, the Heron evidence. Have fun attempting to deconstruct it!
- Also, at the end of Book 4, Hermione kisses Harry on the cheek but she once again refrains with Ron. This obviously means there is some sort of tension between the two.
- When Harry sees Hermione at the Yule Ball and doesn't recognise her, it is because she looks pretty. He finds her attractive FOR ONCE. She is never described favourably again.
- When Malfoy calls Hermione a mudblood for the first time in CoS, Ron does that spell on him that then backfires and makes him "eat slugs". He reacted the strongest of all to this insult, throwing himself at Malfoy in an attempt to hurt him.
- Hermione and Ron bicker ALL THE TIME in the last few books. If this is not hate/LOVELOVELOVE relationship, then what is? Remember what movie!Snape says to Lupin and Sirius? "Well, well, well, bickering like an old married couple".
- I believe JKR gave the film makers, particularly Alfonso Cuaron, some insider details for what was yet to come in the books, especially Ron/Hermione. For example, when Harry is approaching Buckbeak, that famous grabbing for Ron's hand that Hermione exhibits? She is embarassed, he is embarrassed, they look away from eachother and even step away. Grabbing for somebody's hand if they are just a friend to you means nothing! You can do it rather easily in fact. But she did it without thinking. And when the three of them see Buckbeak getting his head chopped off, Hermione does that weird sultry putting her arms round Ron, and it is Harry who is forced to try and join the embrace. She is turning to Ron for comfort involuntarily. How lovely.
Some quotes...
"You will find that Madam Pomfrey is still awake. She's just giving out Mandrake juice - I daresay the Basilisk's victims will be waking up any moment." [Dumbledore]
"So Hermione's OK!" said Ron brightly. - CoS
"Hermione!" Ron groaned (when he saw her petrified).
-It isn't Harry who reacts, it's Ron, and we see how upset he is.
"Bet you five Galleons the next one dies. Pity it wasn't Granger -"
The bell rang at that moment, which was lucky; at Malfoy's last words, Ron had leapt off his stool, and in the scramble to collect bags and books, his attempts to reach Malfoy went unnoticed.
"Let me at him," Ron growled as Harry and Dean hung onto his arms. "I don't care, I don't need my wand, I'm going to kill him with my bare hands -"
- Ron is completely enraged, but Harry doesn't react other than to hold him back.
Ron read the message, swallowed hard, and looked sideways at the empty seat usually filled by Hermione. The sight seemed to stiffen his resolve, and he nodded.
-The fact Hermione is no longer there makes him want to go find the spiders, the things he hates above all others.
".. Five more points from Gryffindor for being an insufferable know-it-all."
Hermione went very red, put down her hand and stared at the floor with her eyes full of tears. It was a mark of how much the class loathed Snape that they were all glaring at him, because very one of them has called Hermione a know-it-all at least once, and Ron, who told Hermione she was a know-it-all at least twice a week, said loudly, "You asked us a question, and she knows the answer! Why ask if you don't want to be told?" - PoA
Harry was still thinking about what Malfoy said, while Ron was seething about Snape (for taking five points from Gryffindor because Hermione helped Neville.)
- STILL seething, really. He is obsessed...
"You don't think Malfoy did something to her (Hermione)?" Ron said anxiously as they hurried upstairs toward Gryffindor Tower.
- Worried, how touching.
Hermione flung her arms around Ron's neck and broke down completely. Ron, looking quite terrified, patted her very awkwardly on the top of the head. Finally, Hermione drew away.
"Ron, I'm really, really sorry about Scabbers ..." she sobbed.
"Oh-well-he was old," said Ron, looking thoroughly relieved that she had let go of him. "And he was a bit useless. You never know, Mum and Dad might get me an owl now."
- This is sexual tension- if you fancy someone and they throw themselves on you it's a bit awkward, and he tries to deal with her in the best way he can, which is not very effectively.
"If you think they can't spot a Mudblood, stay where you are." [Malfoy]
"You watch your mouth!" shouted Ron. Everybody present knew that 'Mudblood' was a very offensive term for a witch or wizard of Muggle parentage.
"Never mind, Ron," said Hermione quickly, seizing Ron's arm to restrain him as he took a step towards Malfoy. - GoF.
- Again, trying to protect Hermione (see previous 'mudblood' evidence).
"I hope the others are okay," said Hermione after a while.
"They'll be fine," said Ron.
(and then...)
"Those poor Muggles, though," said Hermione nervously. "What if they can't get them down?"
"They will," said Ron reassuringly. "They'll find a way."
- He's making her feel better, constantly (well, twice) reassuring her.
"Look," said Hermione patiently (to Harry), "it's always you who gets all the attention, you know it is. I know it's not your fault," she added quickly, seeing Harry open his mouth furiously. "I know you don't ask for it...but--well--you know, Ron's got all those brothers to compete against at home, and you're his best friend, and you're really famous--he's always shunted to one side whenever people see you, and he puts up with it, and he never mentions it, but I suppose this is just one time too many...."
- This just goes to show how much Hermione knows and understands Ron.
...Hermione, whimpering in panic was clutching her mouth.
"Hermione!"
Ron had hurried forward to see what was wrong with her; Harry turned and saw Ron dragging Hermione's hand away from her face.
- Where is Harry in all this? It's his fault she got hurt, for pity's sake.
"Can't you think of anyone who'd go with Ron?" he said, lowering his voice so that Ron wouldn't hear.
"What about Hermione Granger?" said Parvati.
- I've always liked Parvati...
All the good-looking ones taken, Ron?" said Hermione loftily. "Eloise Midgen starting to look quite pretty now, is she? Well, I'm sure you'll find someone somewhere who'll have you."
But Ron was staring at Hermione as though suddenly seeing her in a whole new light.
"Hermione, Neville's right -- you are a girl . . ."
"Oh well spotted," she said acidly.
Well -- you can come with one of us!"
"No, I can't," snapped Hermione.
"Oh come on," he said impatiently, "we need partners, we're going to look really stupid if we haven't got any, everyone else has . . ."
"I can't come with you," said Hermione, now blushing, "because I'm already going with someone."
"No, you're not!" said Ron. "You just said that to get rid of Neville!"
"Oh did I?" said Hermione, and her eyes flashed dangerously. "Just because it's taken you three years to notice, Ron, doesn't mean no one else has spotted I'm a girl!"
Ron stared at her. Then he grinned again.
- She seems quite hurt that it took him so long to finally think of her as a date.
"Hermione -- who are you going to the ball with?" said Ron.
He kept springing this question on her, hoping to startle her into a response by asking it when she least expected it.
- Why is he so bothered?
Hermione came over and sat down in Parvati's empty chair. She was a bit pink in the face from dancing.
"Hi," said Harry. Ron didn't say anything.
"It's hot, isn't it?" said Hermione, fanning herself with her hand. "Viktor's just gone to get some drinks."
Ron gave her a withering look. "Viktor?" he said. "Hasn't he asked you to call him Vicky yet?"
Hermione looked at him in surprise. "What's up with you?" she said.
"If you don't know," said Ron scathingly, "I'm not going to tell you."
Hermione stared at him, then at Harry, who shrugged.
"Ron, what --?"
"He's from Durmstrang!" spat Ron. "He's competing against Harry! Against Hogwarts! You -- you're --" Ron was obviously casting around for words strong enough to describe Hermione's crime, "fraternising with the enemy, that's what you're doing!"
Hermione's mouth fell open.
"Don't be so stupid!" she said after a moment. "The enemy! Honestly -- who was the one who was all excited when they saw him arrive? Who was the one who wanted his autograph? Who's got a model of him up in their dormitory?"
Ron chose to ignore this. "I s'pose he asked you to come with him while you were both in the library?"
"Yes, he did," said Hermione, the pink patches on her cheeks glowing more brightly. "So what?"
"What happened -- trying to get him to join spew, were you?"
"No, I wasn't! If you really want to know, he -- he said he'd been coming up to the library every day to try and talk to me, but he hadn't been able to pluck up the courage!"
Hermione said this very quickly, and blushed so deeply that she was the same color as Parvati's robes.
"Yeah, well -- that's his story," said Ron nastily.
"And what's that supposed to mean?"
"Obvious, isn't it? He's Karkaroff's student, isn't he? He knows who you hang around with . . . He's just trying to get closer to Harry -- get inside information on him -- or get near enough to jinx him --"
Hermione looked as though Ron had slapped her. When she spoke, her voice quivered.
"For your information, he hasn't asked me one single thing about Harry, not one --"
". . .Why don't you go and find Vicky, he'll be wondering where you are," said Ron.
"Don't call him Vicky!"
Hermione jumped to her feet and stormed off across the dance floor, disappearing into the crowd. Ron watched her go with a mixture of anger and satisfaction on his face.
"Are you going to ask me to dance at all?" Padma asked him.
"No," said Ron, still glaring after Hermione.
-A long quote, but it makes my point doesn't it? Ron is on a date with a very pretty girl, one of the prettiest in the year by all accounts, but he is hankering after Hermione. Ron used to be a BIG fan of Krum's, but not anymore. He accuses Krum of following Hermione around just to get to Harry, and this must hurt Hermione's feelings somewhat. In fact, she looks as though she has been 'slapped' by Ron's harsh words.
[After Krum jumps into the lake]
"It's a lot colder where he comes from," said Hermione. "I suppose it feels quite warm to him."
"Yeah, but there's still the giant squid," said Ron. He didn't sound anxious - if anything, he sounded hopeful. Hermione noticed his tone of voice, and frowned.
"He's really nice, you know," she said. "He's not at all like you'd think, coming from Durmstrang. He likes it much better here, he told me."
Ron said nothing. He hadn't mentioned Viktor Krum since the ball, but Harry had found a miniature arm under his bed on Boxing Day, which looked very much as though it had been snapped of a small model figure wearing Bulgaria Quidditch robes.
- Woah! Suddenly he hates the guy?
'There's something funny, though,' said Hermione ten minutes later, holding her pestle suspended over a bowl of scarab beetles. 'How could Rita Skeeter have known ...?'
'Known what?' said Ron quickly. 'You haven't been mixing up Love potions, have you?'
'Don't be stupid,' Hermione snapped, starting to pound up her beetles again. 'No, it's just ... how did she know Viktor asked me to visit him over the summer?'
Hermione blushed scarlet as she said this, and determinedly avoided Ron's eyes.
(Notice it's RON'S eyes she's avoiding?!)
'What?' said Ron, dropping his pestle with a loud clunk.
'He asked me right after he's pulled me out of the lake,' Hermione muttered. 'After he'd got rid of his shark's head. Madam Pomfrey gave us both blankets and then he sort of pulled me away from the judges so they wouldn't hear, and he said, if I wasn't doing anything over the summer, would I like to -'
'And what did you say?' said Ron, who had picked up his pestle and was grinding it on the desk, a good six inches from his bowl, because he was looking at Hermione.
'And he did say he'd never felt the same way about anyone else,' Hermione went on, going so red now that Harry could almost feel the heat coming from her, 'but how could Rita Skeeter have heard him? She wasn't there ... or was she? Maybe she has got an Invisibility Cloak, maybe she sneaked into the grounds to watch the second task ...'
'And what did you say?' Ron repeated, pounding his pestle down so hard that it dented the desk.
'Well, I was too busy seeing whether you and Harry were OK to -'
- Seems to be quite bothered whether she's seeing Krum again or not, doesn't he? And bothered about what she said.
"And he sneaked up here to search Snape's office!" said Ron triumphantly, looking at Hermione.
- Triumphantly? He's trying to impress her?
"You only liked him [Lockhart] because he's handsome," said Ron scathingly.
"Excuse me, I don't like people just because they're handsome!" said Hermione indignantly.
- Ron is acting jealous here, perhaps because he is not handsome and therefore thinks Hermione will not like him. Is Hermione reassuring him?
Hermione told Harry that it would do him good to get away from the castle for a bit, and Harry didn't need each persuasion.
"What about Ron, though?" he said. "Don't you want to go with him?"
"Oh ... well..." Hermione went slightly pink. "I thought we might meet up with him in the Three Broomsticks..."
"No," said Harry flatly.
- This doesn't say TOO much, but the way Harry said it - "Don't you want to go with him?" - sounds almost like "I thought you preferred to be with him." Hermione just might've got the wrong idea when he said it and blushed.
Thanks," she (Parvati) said. "Padma's going to meet you in the entrance hall," she added to Ron.
"Right," said Ron, looking around. "Where's Hermione?"
"Where is Hermione?" he said again.
- This happens throughout the period just before the Yule Ball, during the Yule Ball and after. Ron is constantly pressing Hermione's personal life, particularly whom she is going to the Yule Ball with. Hallo, he's about to go on his first date with a girl, and all he can think of is her!
Ron, however, walked right past Hermione without looking at her. [when she comes out with Krum]
- Ron shows that he is VERY jealous, and does a terrible job at concealing it.
"Well, if you don't like it, you know what the solution is, don't you?" yelled Hermione; her hair was coming down out of its elegant bun now, and her face was screwed up in anger.
"Oh yeah?" Ron yelled back. "What's that?"
"Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!"
Ron mouthed soundlessly like a goldfish out of water as Hermione turned on her heel and stormed up the girls' staircase to bed. Ron turned to look at Harry. "Well," he spluttered, looking thunderstruck, "well - that just proves - completely missed the point-"
Harry didn't say anything. He liked being back on speaking terms with Ron too much to speak his mind right now - but he somehow thought that Hermione had got the point much better than Ron had.
- This is as good as any line that tell us Hermione likes Ron. "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!" tells the reader that she's hurt that he hadn't approached her first, and that she has feelings for him.
Krum had come to say Goodbye to Hermione.
"Could i have a vord?" he asked her.
"Oh...yes...all right," said Hermione, looking slightly flustered, followed Krum
through the crowd and out of sight. "You'd better hurry up!" Ron called loudly after her. "The carriages'll be here in a minute!"
He let Harry keep a watch for the carriages, however, and spent the next few minutes craning his neck over the crown to try and see what Krum and Hermione might be up to. They returned quite soon. Ron stared at Hermione, but her face was impassive.
- Ron wants to know what is going on. Harry doesn't care.
"And you, too - you 'elped-" [Fleur]
"Yeah," said Ron, looking extremely hopeful, "yeah, a bit-"
Fleur swooped down on him, too, and kissed him. Hermione looked simply furious.
- Hermione isn't furious that Fleur kissed Harry, is she? Only when it's Ron.
"We will see each uzzer again, I 'ope," said Fleur, as she reached him, holding out her hand. "I am 'oping to get a job 'ere, to improve my Eenglish."
"It's very good already," said Ron, in a strangled sort of voice. Fleur smiled at him; Hermione scowled.
- And again with the not liking Ron fancying Fleur.
"Who're you writing the novel to, anyway?"
"Viktor."
"Krum?"
"How many other Viktors do we know?
Ron said nothing, but looked disgruntled. - OotP
Um, it's just because it's 'Vicky' that he's angry.
"What does she see in Krum?" Ron demanded, as he and Harry climbed the boys' stairs.
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"Yeah, but apart from that," said Ron, sounding aggravated. "I mean, he's a grouchy git, isn't he?"
- Ron is angry and frustrated at Hermione liking Krum.
(About Christmas presents) "... and that perfume's really unusual, Ron."
- Harry gets Hermione a book, something rather impersonal but fitting for someone who likes to read. A perfect present from a friend. Poor, sweet Ron gets her some perfume- something girly, but not really suited for a girl he is trying to impress. It's also the sort of thing a boyfriend would give to his girlfriend.
"No problem," said Ron. "Who's that for anyway?" he added ...
- Right after Hermione thanks Ron for giving her the perfume, he, embarrassed, turns the attention onto something else, feeling awkward that Harry is witnessing this and seeing his gift.
"Good luck, Ron," said Hermione, standing on tiptoe and kissing him on the cheek. "And you, Harry-"
Ron seemed to come to himself slightly as they walked back across the Great Hall. He touched the spot on his face where Hermione had kissed him, looking puzzled as though he was not sure what had just happened.
- There is a moment in the books where Hermione kisses Harry goodbye for the holidays, and he thinks nothing of it. In fact, it is not mentioned again in the next paragraph. Because it means nothing. When Hermione kisses Ron on the cheek, he touches the spot, and JK devotes a paragraph to this. Dropping ANVIL SIZED HINTS once again. He's thinking, "Am I just dreaming or did Hermione really kiss me on the cheek?"
Ron was looking at Hermione suspiciously.
"You're not still in contact with him [Krum] are you?"
"So what if I am?" said Hermione coolly, though her face was a little pink. "I can have a pen pal if I --"
"He didn't only want to be your pen pal," said Ron accusingly.
Hermione shook her head exasperatedly and ignored Ron, who was continuing to watch her.
- Ron is 'accusing' towards Hermione concerning Krum. Harry just doesn't care at all.
"Are you that bad at kissing?" [Ron]
"Dunno," said Harry, who hadn't considered this, and immediately felt rather worried. "Maybe I am."
"Of course you're not," said Hermione absently, still scribbling away at her letter.
"How do you know?" said Ron very sharply. - page 405
This goes back to Ron's jealousy again. At Hermione's remark that Harry is not bad at kissing, Ron tenses up assuming that perhaps Hermione has been kissing Harry, and that certainly will not do.
"How would it be ... if I refused to lend you my notes this year?" - Hermione
"We'd fail our OWL," said Ron. "If you want that on your conscience, Hermione ..."
"Well, you'd deserve it," she snapped. "You don't even try to listen to him, do you?"
"We do try," said Ron. "We just haven't got your brains or your memory or your concentration - you're just cleverer than we are - is it nice to rub it in?"
"Oh don't give me that rubbish," said Hermione, but she looked slightly mollified.
- She likes his compliments, and let's be honest, what girl wouldn't like her crush complimenting her?
[Still in Potions class, after Slughorn realises that Harry's "best friend [who] is Muggle-born and the best in the year" is Hermione.] Hermione turned to Harry with a radiant expression and whispered, "Did you really tell him I'm the best in the year? Oh, Harry!"
"Well, what's so impressive about that?" whispered Ron, who for some reason looked annoyed. "You are the best in the year - I'd've told him so if he'd asked me!" (HBP)
-Ron is jealous and annoyed at Hermione's response.
"You can still see where those brains got hold of me in the Ministry, look," said Ron, shaking back his sleeves.
"And it doesn't hurt that you've grown about a foot over the summer, either," Hermione finished, ignoring Ron."
"I'm tall," said Ron inconsequentially.
- Ron's obviously trying to impress Hermione, showing his scars and his height. It's cute.
What did surprise [Harry] was that when Ron drew level with them, Parvati suddenly nudged Lavender, who looked round and gave Ron a wide smile. Ron blinked at her, then returned the smile uncertainly. His walk instantly became something more like a strut. (...) Hermione, however, looked cold and distant all the way down to the stadium through the cool, misty drizzle, and departed to find a place in the stands without wishing Ron good luck.
-Hermione's jealous!
"You did brilliantly, Ron!"
This time it really was Hermione running towards them from the stands; Harry saw Lavender walking off the pitch, arm in arm with Parvati, a rather grump expression on her face. Ron looked extremely pleased with himself and even taller than usual as he grinned around at the team and at Hermione.
- Ron loves Hermione's attention, and Hermione is quick to establish the fact that Ron is "hers" to Lavender, who doesn't react well.
[Hermione says] "Ron, what are you staring at?"
"Nothing," said Ron, hastily looking away from the bar, but Harry knew he was trying to catch the eye of the curvy and attractive barmaid, Madam Rosmerta, for who he had long nursed a soft spot.
"I expect 'nothing''s in the back getting more Firewhiskey," said Hermione waspishly.
- Hermione's reply shows she is peeved with Ron eyeballing some other woman when she's around.
Harry groaned. Ron, meanwhile, who was attempting to burst the pod in the bowl by putting both hands on it, standing up and squashing it as hard as he could, said angrily, "And this is another party just for Slughorn's favourites, is it?"
"Just for the Slug Club, yes," said Hermione.
The pod flew out from under Ron's fingers and hit the greenhouse glass, rebounding on to the back of Professor Sprout's head and knocking off her old patched hat. Harry went to retrieve the pod; when he got back, Hermione was saying, "Look, I didn't make up the name 'Slug Club'-"
"'Slug Club'," repeated Ron with a sneer worthy of Malfoy. It's pathetic. Well, I hope you enjoy your party. Why don't you try getting off with McLaggen, then Slughorn can make you King and Queen Slug-"
"We're allowed to bring guests," said Hermione, who for some reason had turned a bright, boiling scarlet, "an I was going to ask you to come, but if you think it's that stupid then I won't bother!"
Harry suddenly wished the pod had flown a little further so that he need not have been sitting there with the pair of them. Unnoticed by either, he seized the bowl that contained the pod and began to try and open it by the noisiest and most energetic means he could think of; unfortunately, he coul still hear every word of their conversation.
"You were going to ask me?" asked Ron, in a completely different voice.
"Yes," said Hermione angrily, "But obviously if you'd rather I get off with McLaggen ..."
There was a pause while Harry continued to pound the resilient pod with a trowel.
"No, I wouldn't," said Ron, in a very quiet voice.
Harry missed the pod, hit the bowl, and it shattered.
"Reparo," he said hastily, poking the pieces with his wand, and the bowl sprang back together again. The crash, however, appeared to have woken Ron and Hermione to Harry's presence. Hermione looked flustered and immediately started fussing about for her copy of Flesh-Eating Trees of the World to find out the correct way to juice Snargaluff pods; Ron, on the other hand, looked sheepish but also rather pleased with himself.
"Hand that over, Harry," said Hermione hurriedly, "it says we're supposed to puncture them with something sharp."
Harry possed her the pod in the bowl, he and Ron both snapped their goggles back over their eyews and dived, once more, for the stump.
It was not as though he was really surprise, thought Harry, as he wrestles with a thorny vine intent upon throttling him; he had had an inkling that this might happen sooner or later. But he was not sure how he felt about it ... he and Cho were now too embarassed to look at each other, let alone talk to each other; what if Ron and Hermione started going out together, then split up? Could their friendship survive it? Harry remembered the few weeks they had not been talking to each other in the third year; he had not enjoyed trying to bridge the distance between them. And the, what if they didn't split up? What if they became like Bill and Fleur, and it became excruciatingly embarassing to be in their presence, so that he was shut out for good?
"Gotcha!" yelled Ron, pulling a second pod from the stump just as Hermione managed to burst the first one opem, so that the bowl was full of tubers wriggling like pale green worms.
The rest of the lesson passed without further mention of Slughorn's party. Although Harry watched his two friends more closely over the next few days, Ron and Hermione did not seem any different except that they were a little politer to each other than usual. Harry supposed he would just have to wait to see what happened under the influence of Butterbeer in Slughorn's dimly lit room on the night of the party.
- Doesn't this make you want to CRY? I'm so glad it happened. This just killed me. Harry can bloody see it, he always knew it would happen. That bit where he says he isn't sure how he feels about it, it isn't because he is jealous, it's because they could possibly break up.
"D'you think Hermione did snog Krum? Ron asked abruptly, as they approached the fat lady. Harry gave a guilty start and wrenched his imagination away from a corridor in which no Ron intruded, in which he and Ginny were quite alone-
"What?" he said confusedly. "Oh ... er ..."
The honest answer was 'yes,' but he did not want to give it. However, Ron seemed to gather the worst from the look on Harry's face.
"Dilligrout," he said darkly to the Fat Lady, and they climbed through the portrait hole into the common room.
- This matters a lot to Ron, duh.
"You added Felix Felicis to Ron's juice this morning, that's why he saved everything! See! I can save goals without help, Hermione!"
"I never said you couldn't-Ron, you thought you'd been given it, too!"
But Ron had already strode past her out of the door with his broomstick over his shoulder.
"Er," said Harry into the sudden silence; he had not expected his plan to backfire like this, "shall ... shall we go up to the party, then?"
"You go!" said Hermione, blinking back tears. "I'm sick of Ron at the moment, I don't know what I'm supposed to have done ... "
And she storem out of the changing room, too.
Harry walked slowly back up to the grounds toward the castle through the crowd, many of whom shouted congratulations at him, but he felt a great sense of let-down; he had been sure that if Ron won the match, he and Hermione would be friends again immediately. He did not see how he could explain to Hermione that what she had done to offend Ron was kiss Viktor Krum, not when the offence had occured so long ago.
Harry looked into the corner she was indicating. There, in full view of the whole room, stood Ron wrapped so closely around Lavender Brown it was hard to tell whose hands were whose.
"It looks like he's eating her face, doesn't it?" said Ginny dispassionately. "But I suppose he's got to refine his technique somehow. Good game, Harry."
She patted him on the arm; Harry felt a swooping sensation in his stomach, but then she walked off to help herself to more Butterbeer. Crookshanks trotted after her, his yellow eyes fixed upon Arnold.
Harry turned away from Ron, who did not look like surfacing soon, just in time to see the portrait hole closing. With a sinking feeling he thought he saw a mane of bushy brown hair whipping out of sight.
He darted forwards, sidestepping Romilda Vane again, and pushed open the prtrait of the Fat lady. The corridor outside seemed to be deserted.
"Hermione?"
He found her in the first unlocked classroom he tried. She was sitting on the teacher's desk, alone except for a small ring of twittering yellow birds circling her head, which she had clearly just conjured out of midair. Harry could not help admiring her spellwork at a time like this.
"Oh, hello, Harry," she said in a brittle voice. "I was just practising."
"Yeah ... they're - er - really good ..." said Harry.
He had no idea what to say to her. He was just wondering whether there was any chance that she had not seen Ron, that she had merely left the room because the partu was a little too rowdy, when she said, in an unnaturally high-pitched voice, "Ron seems to be enjoying the celebrations."
"Er ... does he?" said Harry.
"Don't pretend you didn't see him," said Hermione. "He wasn't exactly hiding it, was -"
The door behind them burst open. To Harry's horror, Ron came in, laughing, pulling Lavender by the hand.
"Oh," he said, drawing up short at the sight of Harry and Hermione.
"Oops!" said Lavender, and she backed out of the room giggliing. The door swung shut behind her.
There was a horrible swelling, billowing silence. Hermione was staring at Ron, who refused to look at her, but said with an odd mixture of bravado and awkwardness, "Hi, Harry! Wondered where you'd got to!"
Hermione slid off the desk. The little flock of golden birds continued to twitter in circles around her head so that she looked like a strange, feathery model of the solar system.
"You shouldn't leave Lavender waiting outside," she said quietly. "She'll wonder where you've gone."
She walked very slowly and erectly towards the door. Harry glanced at Ron, who was looking relieved that nothing worse had happened.
"Oppugno!" came a shriek from the doorway.
Harry spun round to see Hermione pointing her want at Ron, her expression wold; the little flock of birds was speeding like a hail of fat golden bullets towards Ron, who yelped and covered his face with his hands, but the birds attacked, pecking and clawing at every bit of flesh they could reach.
"Gerremoffme! he yelled, but with one last look of vindictive fury, Hermione wrenched open the door and disappeared through it. Harry though he heard a sob before it slammed.
- Oh, poor, wronged Hermione.
Ron, whose hands still bore scratches and cuts from Hermione's bird attack, was taking a defensive and resentful tone.
"She can't complain," he told Harry. "She snogged Krum. So she found out someone who wants to snog me, too. Well, it's a free country. I haven't done anything wrong."
"Harry did not answer, but pretended to be absorbed in the book the were supposed to have read before Charms the following morning (Quintessence: A Quest). Determined as he was to remain friends with both Ron and Hermione, he was spending a lot of time with his mouth shut tight.
"I never promised Hermione anything," Ron mumbled. "I mean, all right, I was going to go to Slughorn's party with her, but she never said ... just as friends ... I'm a free agent ..."
Harry turned a page of Quintessence, aware that Ron was watching him. Ron's voice tailed away in mutters, barely audible over the loud crackling of the fire, though Harry thought he caught the words 'Krum' and 'can't complain' again.
Hermione's timetable was so full that Harry could only talk to her properly in the evenings, when Ron was in any case so tighly wrapped around Lavender that he did not notice what Harry was doing. Hermione refused to sit in the common room while Ron was there, which meant that their conversations were held in whispers.
"He's at perfect liberty to kiss whomever he likes," said Hermione, while the librarian, Madame Pince, proled the shelves behind them. "I really couldn't care less."
She raised her quill and dotted and 'i' so ferociously that she punctured a hole in her parchment.
"Told you," said Hermione succintly. "Sooner you ask someone, sooner you they'll all leave you alone and you cam-"
But her face suddenly turned blank; she had just spotted Ron and Lavender who were entwined in the same armchair.
"Well, goodnight, Harry," said Hermione, though it was only seven o'clock in the evening, and she left for the girls' dormitory without another word.
"... oh, hi, Hermione!"
Parvati positively beamed. Harry could tell that she was feeling guilty for having laughed at hermione in Transfiguration. He looked around and saw that Hermione was beaming back, if possible even more brightly. Girls were very strange sometimes.
"Hi, Parvati!" said Hermione, ingnoring Ron and Lavender completely. "Are you going to Slughorn's party tonight?"
"No invite," said Parvati gloomily. "I'd love to go, though, it sounds like it's going to be really good .. you're going, aren't you?"
"Yes, I'm meeting Cormac at eight and we're-"
There was a noise like a plunger being withdrawn from a blocked sink and Ron surfaces. Hermione actes as though she had not seen or heard anything.
"-we're going up to the party together."
"Cormac?" said Parvati. "Cormac McLaggen, you mean?"
"That's right," said Hermione sweetly. "The one who almost" she put a great deal of emphasis on the word, "became Gryffindor keeper."
"Are you going out with him, then?" asked Parvati, wide-eyed.
"Oh - yes - didn't you know?" said Hermione, with a most un-Hermione-ish giggle.
"No!" said Parvati, looking positively agog at this piece of gossip. "Wow, you like your Quidditch players, don't you? First Krum, then McLaggen ..."
"I like really good Quidditch players," Hermione corrected her, still smiling. "Well, see you ... got to go and get ready for the party ..."
She left. At once Lavender and Parvati put their heads together to discuss this new developement, with everything they had ever heard about McLaggen and all they had ever guessed about Hermione. Ron looked strangely blank and said nothing. Harry was left to ponder in silence the depths to which girls would sink to get revenge.
- Jealous much?
"Serves you right for coming with him [McLaggen]." he [Harry] told her severely.
"I thought he'd annoy Ron the most," said Hermione dispassionately.
"Well, yeah," said Ron. He hesitated a moment, then said, "Is Hermione really going out with McLaggen?"
"I dunno," said Harry. "They were at Slughorn's party together, but I don't think it went very well."
Ron looked slightly more cheerful as he delved deeper into his stocking.
- This cheers Ron up, even though he has a girlfriend.
Hermione gave an almost inaudible sniff. She had been exceptionally quiet all day. Having hurtled, white-faced, up to Harry outside the hospital wing and demanded to know what had happened, she had taken almost no part in Harry and Ginny's obsessive discussion about how Ron had been poisoned, but merelystood beside them, clench-jawed and frightened looking, until at last they had been allowed in to see him.
- Hermione is terrified at the thought of losing Ron.
"Then the poisoner didn't know Slughorn very well," said Hermione, speaking for the first time in hours and sounding as though she had a bad head-cold. "Anyone who knew Slughorn would have known there was a good chance he'd keep something that tasty for himself."
"Er-my-nee," croaked Ron unexpectedly from between them.
- HE'S SPEAKING HER NAME IN HIS SLEEP! OH GOD! You don't hear him croaking "'Arry", do you?
"If you don't want to go out with her any more, just tell her," said Harry.
"Yeah ... well ... it's not that easy, is it?" said Ron. He paused. "Hermione going to look in before the match?" he added casually.
"No, she's already gone down to the pitch with Ginny,"
"Oh, said Ron, looking rather glum. "Right. Well, good luck. Hope you hammer McLag- I mean, Smith."
- Ron is thinking of Hermione whilst talking of his girlfriend.
"Ah, no!" said Ron, staring horror-struck at the parchement. "Dont say I'll have to write the whole thing out again!"
"It's OK, we can fix it," said Hermione, pulling the essay towards her and taking out her wand.
"I love you, Hermione," said Ron, sinking back in his chair, rubbing his eyes weaily.
Hermione turned faintly pink, but merely said, "Don't let Lavender hear you saying that."
"I won't, said Ron into his hands. "Or maybe I will ... then she'll ditch me ..."
- Hermione wishes he did love her.. oh, but he does.
"Ron, you're making it snow," said Hermione patiently, grabbing his wrist and redirecting his wand away from the ceiling from which, sure enough, large white flakes had started to fall. Lavender Brown, Harry noticed, glared at Hermione from a neighboring table through very red eyes and Hermione immediately let go of Ron's arm.
"Oh yeah," said Ron, looking down at his shoulders in vague surprise. "Sorry ... looks like we've all got horrible dandruff now ..."
He brushed some of the fake snow off Hermione's shoulder. Lavender burst into tears. Ron looked immensly guilty and turned his back on her.
"We split up," he told Harry out of the corner of his mouth. Last night. When she saw me coming out of the dormitory with Hermione. Obviously she couldn't see you, so she thought it had just been the two of us."
"Ah," said Harry. "Well - you don't mind it's over, do you?"
"No," Ron admitted. "It was pretty bad while she was yelling, but at least I didn't have to finish it."
"Coward," said Hermione, though she looked amused.
They had one of their rare joint free periods after Charms and walked back to the common room together. Ron seemes to be positively light-hearted about the end of his relationshio with Lavender and Hermione seemed cheery, too, though when asked what she was grinning about she simply said, "It's a nice day."
Ron, he saw, was now holding Hermione and stroking her hair while she sobbed into his shoulder, tears dripping from his own long nose.
- I know you don't think this is valid, snowy, but it IS, and so I left it in.
JK evidence...
Couric: "Any snogging with Hermione?"
Rowling: [surprised] "Harry and Hermione! Do you think so?"
Katie Couric: "No, I'm just kidding."
J.K. Rowling: "Ron and Hermione, I should say. There's more tension there."
-- From Katie Couric's June 2003 interview with JK Rowling
"Harry and Hermione are very platonic [platonic means nonsexual] friends. But I won't answer for anyone else. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink."
-- From a National Press Club Luncheon chat with JK Rowling, October 1999)
Q: Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire?
A: "Yes, something's "going on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy."
-- From a BarnesandNoble.com chat with JK Rowling
Q: Does Hermione like Ron as more than a friend?
A: The answer to that is in Goblet of Fire!
(and haven't I already showed you that there is plenty of that?)
-- From a BBC chat with JK Rowling, March 12, 2001)
Movie evidence...
#1- PS. When Hermione learns that Ron is to sacrifice himself in the chess game, Hermione gets upset and tells him that there must be another way. Did Hermione protest when Harry told her that he needed to go alone and face Voldemort? NO. And also, Hermione couldn't keep still when Ron had fallen from the transfigured chess piece.
#2- CoS. When Harry moves closer to see the petrified Mrs. Norris, you can see Hermione moving closer to Ron, and they glance at each other. Soon after, Ron and Hermione look at each other again when the students are leaving to go back to their dormitories.
#3- Hermione: "Do you think he's (Lockhart) alright?"
Ron: "Who cares?" (Leans into her.)
#4- The "Hug" scene
At the very end of the movie, Hermione comes running into the hall to congratulate Harry and Ron. She runs straight up to Harry and hugs him, but then stops herself before hugging ron (who becomes flustered at the idea of hugging her), and instead shakes his hand.
Hermione feels nothing when she hugs Harry, but is too embarrassed to hug Ron.
#5 - PoA. The "Move Closer" scene
While Harry is sneaking through Honeydukes under the invisibility cloak, Ron and Hermione are alone in Hogsmeade looking at the Shrieking Shack. Hermione mentions that it's "the most haunted building in Britian" and then asks "Do you want to move a bit closer?"
Ron thinks she is talking about them moving closer together and starts getting all flustered, then Hermione realises and adds "to the shrieking shack!"
#6 - "They Might Have To Chop It"
This scene is quite funny. After everyone comes out of the Shrieking Shack, Harry and Sirius stand looking at Hogwarts, while Hermione stays back with Ron, whose leg is broken. Hermione asks "is it painful?" and Ron reples, in a very would-be-brave voice, "so painful...it might have to be chopped".
This can be regarded as just a bit of humour, but you can read that Ron is trying somewhat to be brave in front of, or to impress, Hermione.
Even Dan Radcliffe sees it...
"I think these two [Rupert (Ron) and Emma (Hermione)] are going to get together." - Daniel Radcliffe
"...the sideline story between Ron and Hermione is one of my favorites, as it's just a cover-up so they can get attention of each other. There's a huge amount of sexual tension between them, which is great and provides much-needed comic relief because the film is very depressing and angry." - Daniel Radcliffe
Lizo: "Do you think Ron and Hermione are suited?"
Daniel Radcliffe: Yeah absolutely, very much so--they are complete polar opposites but suit each other perfectly."
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Now Pumpkinhead, we want TONS of quotes that support Harry/Hermione. Failure to do so will suggest two things:
a) that you cannot find any
b) More Heron evidence exists in the books.
Have fun!
By Anonymous, at 8:42 AM
Colleen and YunaKitty2987- Thank you for your support in the pie movement.
there is NOTHING wrong with being a hormonal 14 year old, as i am 14... uh.. well, technically im about 600, but here on earth im 14.
Also, pumkinhead, this is simply rediculous. RON + HERMIONE = TRUE LOVE. i understand that your dissapointed that your ship didnt work out, but COME ON!! GET OVER IT!! your acting like a hormonal 12 year old...
By Anonymous, at 1:36 PM
Hey! Don't underestimate hormonal 12 year olds, as I am one myself! lol, this blog is hilarious. All that it's done is give us SANE fans something to laugh about. Thank you to those who actually think rationally. I salute you. But that's ok about that comment, it just makes me a little bit offended...
By Anonymous, at 3:42 PM
But really, this has gone WAY TOO FAR. It's been, what, a month since HBP came out? My friend was an H/Hr shipper, and I'll admit, I did nothing short of printing out the interview and sticking it in her face, but I feel a little sorry about that. Anyway, she got over it.
By Anonymous, at 3:43 PM
Pumpkinhead I used to be a Harry/Hermione shipper a year ago, until I figured out that in no way is Harry interested in Hermione. Unlike Ginny, who makes him feel allwonderful inside. Belive me Pumpikinbrains, I am no longer a Patsy(look that up). What gave you the audacity to create this site is so hilarius, my tear ducts were nearly depleted.We Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny shippers are impregnable to your views. So read instead of looking at pictures from the movie sets between scenes. WE DEMAND REAL PROOF!
By Anonymous, at 5:06 PM
whoops! sorry ali, then pumpkinhead is being a hormonal 11 year old... ahk, i live w/ one at home but she's got NOTHING on pumkinhead...
By Anonymous, at 5:47 PM
::shakes head::
You are so sad. There's a reason why Emerson said delusional. You are.
You can't take defeat gracefully like the rest of the H/Hr shippers can you? I'm not going to lie and say that I wouldn't be devastated if H/G sank, but I know that I wouldn't take it as far as you have. Have some respect for yourself.
By Anonymous, at 6:43 PM
My last email to Snowy. Let's please get over the petty words:
Let's stop and talk like adults here, okay? The last thing I need is you calling me a "fugly bitch" as I try to talk to you. I'll admit, the first time we exchanged words, I was mad at you for insulting JK, and I snapped a little. That is, however, my opinion and I will stand by it. All anyone really wants out of you is an apology to JK Rowling. I don't care what you say about Emerson (as much as I love and admire the guy), as long as you stop this nonsense. Your "cause" is becoming a great hindrance to surfing Harry Potter forums and such, because people angry at you are constantly flooding on. Not to mention, don't you think that what's going on might be hurting JK? What's happening is not her fault, even you must concede to that. She's had these books planned for years, and what she does with the characters is her choice. JK did not call Harry/Hermione shippers delusional, and Emerson has apologized. Please, just be a bigger person and end this. Surely, you must realize most of your signatures are insulting you? Barely any are in support of you. I'm asking you, as a fellow Harry Potter fan.
YunaKitty2987
By Anonymous, at 5:41 AM
GO GO JONOTHAN!!!
By Anonymous, at 7:14 AM
http://3media.initialized.org/photos/2003-10-25/55%20Smashed%20pumpkin.jpg
Don't worry pumpkinhead, it happens to the best of us.
By Anonymous, at 7:31 AM
That's ok. Anyway, the way this is turning out, I'm not sure if these people are even HUMAN...
By Anonymous, at 9:04 AM
Sorry but I don't believe "Mark Fraser" is a real doctor
1. Why would a psocologist be on a HP site?
2. Fraser is probably a play on words of Fraiser (coindedentaly pronounced fraser) Crane a Psycologist on the T.V. show "Cheers" and later "Fraiser" (he was the same character in both shows)
Finaly asumming he is a real doctor he holds no power here because:
1. The Harry Hermione picture is the ACTORS.I don't care if Dan and Emma do it right there in the sow that dosen't mean /Hr will happen
2. THE BROKEN WAND ISn'T ANY FORM OF SYBOLISM LIVE WITH IT!!!
By Anonymous, at 3:08 PM
EDIT: I mean't to say snow not sow
Also pumpkin head I feel a lot better now your picture is right you cant' stop True Love o=r True Fans!!! No I know that Ron and Hermione will always love each other and that I am completely UNSTOPPABLE
READ THE BOOKS
I SHIP R/HR AND H/G
THE TRUE HP SHIPS!!!!
SUPPORT BOOK 7
ALL HAIL MISS TRISH, TIFFI, THE GREY LADY, JONATHAN AND EMERSON: LEADERS OF THE GOOD FIGHT FOR SANITY
•Emerson's Thugs Rock On Forever•
RID THE INTERNET OF LUNATICS
GET OVER IT LOSERS!!!!
By Anonymous, at 3:13 PM
Exactly. Hey, if Dan and Emma get together, that's fine. Because what they do off the set ISN'T CANON!!! So yeah.
Support Book 7 and the Good Fight For Sanity.
All Hail Sane Shippers!
By Anonymous, at 4:26 PM
Once again, they are actors! Just like what everyone else said! And if want flirty stuff from the Movie it happened with Ron and Hermione too. You're just too thick to notice. Oh and this is based off of the books not the 3rd movie, which by the way is wrong on many parts, not that it wasn't a bad movie but it had alot of missing parts in it. Anyways! Get over Emma and Daniel, they would make a cute couple but not Harry and Hermione.
~Jade~
By Anonymous, at 8:03 AM
... Or the Truly Insane! : D
By Anonymous, at 9:09 AM
But hey, at least they can't stop true fans like us (I think it was coonskin13 who said this). We like the books well enough to go with whatever happens. I personally preferred Harry/Luna over Harry/Ginny, but I'm glad that Ginny made Harry so happy. And about the love potion theory? How did Ginny manage to give it to Harry for like, THE ENTIRE YEAR and WHILE SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND?
By Anonymous, at 9:22 AM
Jonathan... you are my hero.
By Anonymous, at 11:21 PM
TRUE friends? What the heck? Hark who's talking, you filthy hypocrite.
Just a reminder to all the other whiney H/Hrs out there: "YOU CAN'T STOP CANON, BABY! LIVE WITH IT!"
....oh, and JKR owns you. ;) But you already know that.
By Anonymous, at 2:19 PM
You guys are too much, really. Why did you get so upset about the mugglenet interview? By getting as upset as you are (and do as much anti-mugglent stuff as you do,) all you're doing is proving Emerson's point. In all honesty, one of my ships is SB/RL, JK sunk it. I've had it insulted loads of times on various message boards, livejournal communities, websites, etcetera, but you don't see me or any other SB/RL shippers campaigning against the release of the 7th book. So he's with Tonks now, big deal. That was the author's vision. JK didn't write these books to make YOU happy, she wrote them to write some books. You read them, you accept what is written whether you like it or not, or you don't read them. Being angry at Mrs Rowling at this point is simply absurd. Maybe from all standpoints you can think of, Hermione and Harry would have gone together. Maybe they are compatable, but there's one huge thing missing. Ready, kids? MUTUAL ATTRACTION. People say all that time that my best friend of opposite gender and I would go great together, but the problem is that we don't like each other. You see? There is something called chemistry, and Hermione and Harry don't have it. Sorry, but it's true. You can still like the idea of H/Hr, but really, this is just nonsense.
By Anonymous, at 4:45 PM
I'm not trying to hide behind an anonymous comment, I just can't figure out how to work LJ. Anyway, to me (an ardent shipper of no one because I read the books for the plot, not the romance) that picture gives an unbiased interpretation of two friends talking. No true love, nada. Two friends talking, one consoling the other about a finally realized reason behind Harry's parents' deaths. Don't see no true love at all.
By Anonymous, at 4:38 PM
"You can't stop true love...or true fans!"
I agree. You can't stop true love - the true love of Ron and Hermione that has been going on for six books and planned for 15 years.
And true fans? I would think that a TRUE fan wouldn't insult JK like this and put together a ban on her next book and a petition to get her to say sorry for telling the truth.
Oh noes, she hurt your feelings. Boo fucking hoo.
By Anonymous, at 4:57 AM
Oh, and guess what? Romance isn't the main focus of the books. Romance is the sub-plot. If you're asking people to ban book seven because your ship didn't sail, that's pretty pathetic and I suggest actually reading the books.
You see, there's this evil person called Voldemort and he wants Harry dead. Harry must fight against him to protect the Wizarding World. In all six books, the only Harry romance we've had is one date with Cho, and then a few weeks with Ginny - until he broke up with her to protect her from harm (as he cares deeply for her).
Even if there was no romance in the next book, it wouldn't matter as the story of Harry Potter is a truly amazing one. And it's obvious that you cannot see that and are not a true fan - hardly a fan at all.
By Anonymous, at 5:03 AM
HMMMMMM
By Anonymous, at 3:51 PM
wiffle waffle
By Anonymous, at 3:52 PM
schmiffle schmaffle
By Anonymous, at 3:52 PM
I have a question, please think about it all you shippers:
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons????????????????
By Anonymous, at 3:54 PM
If something "goes without saying," why do people still say it?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
By Anonymous, at 3:55 PM
Why is it that people say they "slept like a baby" when babies wake up like every two hours?
Why do birds bob their heads when they walk?
CAPTAIN STUPID QUOTE STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
By Anonymous, at 4:00 PM
get some money from your mother and go buy a life cuz it seems u really need one badly.
"You can't stop true love...or true fans!"
i agree. YOU can't stop true love (H/G, Hr/R) and YOU can't stop true fans (us non-insane ones) and YOU definately CANNOT STOP BOOK 7!! IT WILL RULE!!!
so go get a nappie change.
By Anonymous, at 11:09 PM
schmoo schmoo, nothins happenin on this site
captain stupid quote is teh best
By Anonymous, at 1:54 AM
Say your best friend had just found out that his parents best friend betrayed them. Would go confort him because he is your best friend or would you stay in feel for ya man" just because you are of the opposite sex. Someone had to go to Harry because wouldn't it look awkward for that little emotional moment if either one of them was far away. It couldn't be Ron because then we would have all this "Ron and Harry forever!" shippers, and that is crazy. So it had to be Hermione. And as for where his hands were, you guys are really insane. What did you expect him to do, put them up in the air because he didn't want it to look like he was wanting Hermione's figure. You would just come up with some mad defenition that his hands were at a 70 degree angle and if he put them down the would be right at Hermione. Never, not once in the books had Harry described even a feeling anything but friendship for Hermione. Plus does "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione." ring a bell? Emerson was right. Some of you (not saying all because some have coped with the very well) are a bunch of delusional millitants who need to get a life other than H/Hr fanfiction and believing its real. I wouldn't be suprised if you all acted out little scences form HP fanfiction. Get a life and grow up. And as for you Dr. Mark, they are actors in that scene, and as for the picture of Ron at the bottem it shows:
A. That Ron is right handed
B. That his wand is broken
C. That he is unhappy that his wand is broken
D. That Pumpkinhead is a peverted man like 90% of the men population out their.
I don't understand why people want to give perverted refrences to Harry Potter. In that picture Ron is like 12 years old, and he probably doesn't even know about anything, because knowing Molly, she wouldn't tell Ron anything. The H/Hr Delusional Shippers: You are crazy. I'm honestly getting a bit concerend about some of you guys. You need to really think about therapy. I hadn't really relized how crazy you guys were until now. It's all right to like other things, but when you petition to try to get the 7 book banned, it's going a little far.
By Anonymous, at 9:06 AM
Dearest pumkinhead, someday will you PLEASE get some SOLID EVIDENCE from the books? Maybe you should try writing a HP/HG fic. Just don't insult the author we love. FREE PIE FOR ALL!!!
By Anonymous, at 4:04 PM
AHA! This is so sad, I think somebody needs to move on. H/Hr will never happen, JKR has stated that they are "platonic" friends, ie they will never get together. Deal with it.
By Anonymous, at 7:13 AM
We, the undersigned, hereby petition Simon Fuller,author of the Pop Idol, to immediately apologize for his remarks included inthe interviewinparticular the following words:
"Yes, we do now know thatit's Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul."
In addition, we strongly DEMAND that Simon Fuller apologize for laughing at the term"delusional," as it was applied to the millions of Simon/Randy shippers throughout the world.
We also petitionSimon Fuller to rectify the situationin AmericanIdol 6, clearing up any questions the few Simon/Paula shippers(the truly"delusional" ones) floating around might have about the one true romantic relationship that matters in the American Idol, that of Simon and Randy.
Otherwise, we have no choice but to ban American Idol 6 when it comes out. As the millions of Simon/Randy shippers are the only"true" fans of the AmericanIdol series,this action will seriously undoubtedly force Fremantle Media to reconsider any futureAmerican Idol.
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